235: We've Expected Too Much from Pastors - and Underestimated Everyone Else
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235: We've Expected Too Much from Pastors - and Underestimated Everyone Else
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I've been told more than once that the real leverage point in a church is the pastor. Get the pastor healthy, and everything else will follow. I don't buy it.
In this episode, we're talking about why pastors matter, why ordinary people matter too, and why healthy churches are usually built by lots of people growing, participating, and taking ownership together.
In this episode, we're talking about:
- Why we've put so much pressure on pastors
- The role ordinary people play in a healthy church
- What shared ownership actually looks like
- Why participation matters more than observation
- How healthy churches are built together
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