What do you do when life hands you a diagnosis you never saw coming, and the future you'd been quietly building gets stripped away one loss at a time? In this encore episode (originally episode 160), Dani sits down with one of her dearest friends, Deborah Schultz, who was diagnosed with stage four ovarian cancer over five years ago and was told she had maybe five years to live. Spoiler: she's still here, still standing, and just finished her 105th chemo infusion. In this episode, Dani gets real about what it looks like to walk through the unthinkable with grit, honesty, humor, and Jesus.

She shares Deb's stunning story of being prayed over for her health by a fellow board member before she even knew anything was wrong, the brutal honesty of "the red devil" chemo and the agony of 30 mouth blisters, the line that's going to stick with you long after this episode ends ("pull on your big girl panties and just do it"), and Deb's quiet refusal to be a victim even after a lifetime of reasons she could have been one.

In this episode, Dani and Deb talk about getting a stage four diagnosis and the grief work that has to come before acceptance can show up, why you have to actively mourn the loss of who you used to be so you can build a new normal, why being victimized in your past does not mean you have to live as a victim now, how to spot the red flag of isolating yourself when you're struggling, the truth that pity parties are okay as long as they have an end time, the way God shows up most often in the small subtle moments, and what it looks like to carry stage four cancer and still ooze joy because you're not carrying it alone.

If you're walking through any kind of "this is not the life I planned" season, whether it's a diagnosis, a loss, a career ending, a body that doesn't work the way it used to, or just the slow ache of becoming someone new because the old version of you doesn't fit anymore, this episode will feel like a deep breath and a hug and a kick in the ass all at once. Deb is the real deal. And she's living proof that joy and suffering can live in the same body at the same time.

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