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This week on Wrong Way Forward, Katy and Justin tackle one of the most uncomfortable moments of the awards season — the BAFTA incident involving a Tourette’s advocate whose involuntary outburst stunned the room during a live broadcast. The debate quickly becomes bigger than the moment itself: when something offensive happens involuntarily, do we judge the intent or the impact?

They break down what Tourette’s and coprolalia actually are, whether the event organizers handled the situation correctly, and why the on-stage apology may have made things worse. From live television failures to the complicated art of apologizing in public, the conversation explores how quickly things can spiral when a serious moment collides with a neurological condition.

Then the show pivots from controversy to culture, as Katy and Justin discuss the nostalgia-fueled obsession with Hulu’s Love Story about Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jr., and why everyone suddenly seems to be wearing berets again. Plus, they weigh in on Jack Schlossberg’s media antics and whether sometimes the real “wrong way forward” is simply grabbing the nearest camera.

As always, they wrap up with listener reactions, questionable opinions, and a reminder that bad advice is everywhere — and they’re here to roast it.

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