Join Heather and Amy as they get into what has been filling their heads and hearts and keeping their hands busy this June. Coming to you from Amy's basement, sorry the production values aren't perfect on this one!

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Our guest is business advisor, strategic consultant, and style icon Gretchen Jones. Heather and Gretchen go deep on values-driven entrepreneurship, what it means to be truly creative in today's culturally flat landscape, how to break out of the stagnation of late-stage capitalism, and why we should all be embracing "sloppy boobs”. Real wisdom and genuinely thought-provoking ideas from one of the most original thinkers we know!

Read Heather's 2015 interview with Gretchen for Seamwork. https://www.seamwork.com/craft-projects/a-closet-tour-with-gretchen-jones?srsltid=AfmBOooCX6Bd1cdtYrpm3WyOpIZp-NmUeI_LcIhZAdSbm-2Na1_t93Wr

Read Gretchen's essay The Cultural Plateau: https://mailchi.mp/gretchenjones.co/sage-advice-the-noonday-demons-19885062?e=64e3c9a6ee

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Heather and Amy are debriefing after H&H, a giant studio move and Amy's revelation that she's an entirely different season than she thought! Tune in to hear more about what is filling our hearts and heads this month.

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