In the outro, Liz says, “We do not revere criminals.” Jodi Hildebrandt has got to be one of the least revere-able criminals out there. This is a toxic mix of counseling, religion, influencing, and parenting. It’s horrific, but Utah looks beautiful.

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For a change of pace, Kayla and Liz discuss a case that is absolutely a bummer but has a happy ending. Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped by a religious extremist/certified nut job and managed to get out alive. It’s a remarkable story of individual strength and perseverance. And some casual harp playing. Enjoy!

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A woman goes missing on a cruise ship. Did she jump? Did she fall? Did she wander off looking to score drugs? Did she get trafficked off by one of the workers on the ship? All of these theories are explored in Amy Bradley is Missing. Kayla and Liz have their ideas as do the half-dozen people who claim to have seen Amy since her disappearance, her friends, family, the FBI, and cruise workers. Learn about the lawlessness of international waters and what a Charlie Drill is. Enjoy!

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