In this episode of Beyond 60: Unscripted, Ruth Williams-Brinkley sits down with her longtime friend Bob Gift for a warm and thoughtful conversation about retirement, identity, and the search for purpose after a long and demanding career. While Bob’s woodworking provides the frame for the discussion, the episode is really about something larger: what happens when the titles, routines, travel schedules, and professional responsibilities fall away, and you have to decide how to fill your days with meaning. Bob reflects on his career in health care consulting, the transition into retirement, the importance of staying curious, and the satisfaction of creating something tangible after years of work that often felt more abstract. Through his story, Ruth and Bob explore creativity, community, patience, adaptation, and the value of trying something new, reminding listeners that retirement is not an ending, but an opportunity to keep learning, growing, and building a life that feels fully your own.

Meet the Guest

Bob Gift is a retired health care consultant, engineer, and lifelong learner whose career spanned more than four decades in and around hospitals, including 30 years traveling the country as a consultant focused on operations, process improvement, and organizational change. In retirement, Bob has found a new sense of purpose and creativity through woodworking, building furniture and meaningful handmade pieces for family, friends, and his community. His story reflects the value of curiosity, patience, and finding something tangible and fulfilling to make your own in life after the “big job.”

In this episode of Beyond 60: Unscripted, Ruth Williams-Brinkley sits down with author Janice Cosby Adams for a heartfelt conversation about beauty, aging, self-acceptance, and the freedom that comes with embracing who you are. Janice, whose striking gray hair first appeared when she was a child, shares how what once made her different became a source of confidence, identity, and inspiration. Her new book, Grayfully: Wisdom from My Hair, uses her hair as a powerful metaphor for authenticity, courage, and learning to see beauty beyond society’s narrow expectations. Together, Ruth and Janice explore personal style after 60, the pressure women feel to hide signs of aging, the importance of caring for yourself from the inside out, and the joy of showing up fully as yourself at every age. The episode is a reminder that beauty does not disappear with time. It deepens, becomes more honest, and can help us arrive more fully in our own lives.

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Meet the Guest

Janice “Jan” Cosby Adams is an accomplished marketing and communications executive, author, community leader, and mentor whose career includes senior leadership roles with Ascension, where she served as Chief Marketing and Communications Officer for Ascension Michigan and later as Vice President of Foundation Marketing. Known for her expertise in branding, public relations, consumer engagement, and community relations, Jan helped lead major brand development efforts across Ascension while remaining deeply committed to civic service, youth mentorship, women’s leadership, and health advocacy. A Wayne State University graduate and accredited member of the Public Relations Society of America, she has been recognized for her professional achievements and community impact, including honors from the Oakland County NAACP and features in publications such as HOUR Detroit, B.L.A.C., Essence, and MORE Magazine.

What if your retirement dollars could stretch further and your days could slow down, without shrinking your life? In this episode, Ruth sits down with certified financial planner and expat Jennifer Harper, who now lives and works in Portugal, to unpack what living abroad really looks like beyond the glossy highlight reels: visas, housing requirements, healthcare, taxes, currency swings, travel costs, and the patience it takes when the process does not move on your timeline. Together, they talk through the human side too, what you miss, what you gain, how to build community, and the questions to ask before you leap, including how to plan for emergencies and protect your loved ones with the right documents. You will walk away with a clearer view of the tradeoffs, and a grounded sense of what it takes to design a life you enjoy, not just a budget you can afford.

About the Guest: Jennifer Harper

Jennifer Harper is a Certified Financial Planner and the founder, principal, and chief compliance officer of A Bridge Financial Planning. She began her career in financial services in 2000, earned her CFP designation in 2006, completed advanced training through the Kinder Institute of Life Planning, and has taught small business finance as an adjunct instructor at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. With a deep commitment to financial education and advocacy for women, Jennifer brings both professional expertise and lived experience to this conversation, having relocated to Portugal and navigated the practical realities of working, building community, and planning across borders.