Welcome to the Built Different Podcast with host John Smith, a retired law enforcement officer who’s lived the reality behind the badge.

In this episode, he’s joined by former sergeant Chris Frumsa, a 22-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department. Together, they share raw stories from the Sixth District, including high-crime calls, traumatic moments, and the night John and his partner were shot.

This honest conversation explores the mental, emotional, and physical toll of the job—and what life looks like after the uniform comes off.

If you want the real story behind those who serve, this is it.

Welcome to the Built Different Podcast with host John Smith, a retired law enforcement officer who’s lived the reality behind the badge.

In this episode, he’s joined by former sergeant Chris Frumsa, a 22-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department. Together, they share raw stories from the Sixth District, including high-crime calls, traumatic moments, and the night John and his partner were shot.

This honest conversation explores the mental, emotional, and physical toll of the job—and what life looks like after the uniform comes off.

If you want the real story behind those who serve, this is it.