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In this episode of NDIS in the Garden, Matt sits down with Michael Clark from Athletic Koala.

Michael is a former teacher, business owner, author, podcaster, connector and long-time supporter of NDIS providers. He is also a good friend of Matt’s, known for sending books across the country, making people think more deeply, and helping business owners stop letting work take over their lives.

This conversation moves through Michael’s background in teaching, his work with young people, his passion for helping directors get their time back, and what he has learned from speaking with providers across the NDIS space. Michael shares why many business owners feel trapped by their own workload, why strong relationships still matter, how providers can build trust, and why showing up online becomes easier when the focus shifts away from yourself and towards serving other people.

Matt also surprises Michael with a question about Gary Chapman’s The Five Love Languages, leading into a broader discussion about marriage, communication, family, presence and the parts of life that matter beyond work.

This is a conversation about business, but also about people. It is about reputation, relationships, family, self-awareness and the small decisions that help business owners build something without losing themselves in the process.

Find Michael and say hello: https://athletickoala.com.au/

Matt and his team at Steppr offer 'Weirdly Different' Positive Behaviour Support. Find his team at www.steppr.com.au

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