In this rich and forward-looking episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with two seasoned practitioners of multiplication: Larry Walkemeyer and John Teter, co-authors of The Making of a Multiplier: Four Seasons to Maximize Your Kingdom Legacy.

Between them, Larry and John bring decades of church planting, denominational leadership, mentoring, and movement-building experience. From planting 30+ churches out of Light & Life Fellowship in Long Beach to launching businesses like 5000 Pies in Compton as a discipleship engine, these leaders don’t just talk multiplication, they live it.

In this conversation, they unpack:

• Why so many leaders fail to finish well, and how to avoid it
• The four-season framework of leadership development (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter)
• Why Barnabas is the ultimate model of a multiplier
• The overlooked power of investing in others instead of chasing platform
• How multiplication legacy can outlive visible ministry

Larry shares from his own “winter” season of influence without authority, while John reflects on how nearly resigning from ministry at 25 led him into a lifetime study of finishing well.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
2. NewBreed Training

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