Alan Demers spent 24 years at Nationwide, building a career in claims, leadership and innovation before stepping out to found InsurTech Consulting.

In this episode of Humanizing Insurance, we talk about what claims teaches you about people, pressure and decision-making, and why it remains one of the most misunderstood parts of the industry. Alan reflects on a career spent largely inside one organisation, what loyalty and longevity can give you, and the moments when staying in one place can make you wonder what you might be missing elsewhere.

We also explore leadership at scale, the reality of trying to build the “claims of the future”, and what Alan sees now from outside the insurance machine that he could not see when he was inside it. It is an honest conversation about innovation too: not the conference version, but the real thing, with all the bureaucracy, delay and frustration that comes with trying to change a complex industry.

This is a conversation about careers, conviction, claims, and the humbling experience of starting again after years at the top of a large organisation.

In this episode:

• How Alan found his way into insurance through claims
• Why claims is far more nuanced than many people realise
• What 24 years at one company gave him, and what it may have cost
• The tension between loyalty, longevity and moving to grow
• What leadership looks like when you are responsible for thousands of people
• How close the industry has really come to building the “claims of the future”
• What insurers still get wrong about innovation
• Why external networks matter more than many people think
• What it feels like to leave corporate life and build something of your own

Humanizing Insurance is bought to you by Daniel Grimwood-Bird. It's a passion project, driven by the evergreen phrase 'Insurance is a people industry'.

Through each conversation, we explore the stories, experiences, and ideas that make our world of insurance more human - from the pioneers and innovators shaping its future to the quiet leaders who hold its traditions together.

This podcast exists to remind us that behind every policy, premium, and claim is a person, someone making decisions, taking risks, and protecting what matters most.

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