• How Contractors Can Stop Hiring the Wrong People
    2026/06/30

    In this episode of the Contractor Freedom Podcast, Jason W. Phillips sits down with Jennifer Smith, HR manager and culture champion at Phillips Home Improvements, to unpack why most contractor hiring problems are not really people problems. They are clarity problems.

    Jason and Jennifer talk through what has to happen before a job posting ever goes live: defining the role, knowing your core values, identifying the ideal candidate, building clear key result areas, and creating a compensation plan that rewards the right outcomes.

    They also discuss the cost of bad hires, why culture must be guarded at the gate, and how values-based hiring can attract the right people while repelling the wrong ones.

    For contractors who are tired of hiring out of desperation, this episode is a practical reminder that the goal is not just a bigger team. The goal is the right team.

    Topics Covered:

    Contractor hiring, values-based hiring, culture fit, team building, leadership, role clarity, key result areas, KPIs, HR for contractors, hiring mistakes, Contractor Freedom, Jason W. Phillips, Jennifer Smith, Phillips Home Improvements, Contractor Prison

    Takeaways:

    • The central premise discussed in this episode is the notion that hiring challenges stem predominantly from a lack of clarity regarding candidate requirements and organizational values.
    • A contractor's struggle to find suitable employees often indicates a deficiency in defining the ideal candidate profile and the associated role expectations effectively.
    • It is imperative for businesses to articulate their core values clearly, as these values not only influence hiring practices but also shape the organizational culture and employee satisfaction.
    • The episode emphasizes the importance of establishing key result areas for each role, thereby ensuring that potential hires are evaluated based on their ability to meet specific performance outcomes.
    • The significance of aligning compensation with desired behaviors and results is highlighted, as it serves to motivate employees to achieve their best performance in accordance with company objectives.
    • Ultimately, clarity in both values and role expectations will facilitate the recruitment of individuals who align with the organization’s mission, thereby fostering a harmonious workplace culture.

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    54 分
  • From Panic to Profit: A Contractor's Guide to Managing Lead Droughts
    2026/06/23

    The primary focus of this podcast episode is to elucidate the crucial steps contractors should undertake when experiencing a downturn in lead generation, emphasizing the necessity of refraining from hastily investing in additional advertising to rectify a problem that may stem from internal inefficiencies. I expound upon the common tendency of contractors to panic and flood the market with ads, which often exacerbates the situation by increasing costs and diluting return on investment. It is imperative to first diagnose the nature of the slowdown—whether it is a market-wide issue or a self-inflicted predicament due to faulty systems. I provide a systematic approach, comprising four essential steps that contractors ought to follow to optimize their existing resources before considering any new financial expenditures. Ultimately, this discussion aims to empower contractors to work more effectively with their current assets, thereby fostering sustainable business practices and avoiding unnecessary financial strain. Contractors frequently encounter periods where lead generation slows, often prompting a hasty response characterized by increased advertising expenditure. This reaction, however, is often misguided. The discussion emphasizes that in times of reduced leads, contractors typically panic and oversaturate the market with advertisements, inadvertently escalating costs and diminishing returns. I advocate for a more strategic approach, urging contractors to first assess the nature of the slowdown—whether it is a market-wide trend or a specific operational issue. The initial step should be to ensure the existing leads are being effectively managed rather than hastily investing more in acquiring new leads. This entails scrutinizing the responsiveness to incoming inquiries and ensuring that every potential client is adequately followed up with. By focusing on internal systems and processes, we can often remedy the situation without incurring additional costs, ultimately leading to a more sustainable business model that does not rely on reactive spending.

    Takeaways:

    • Contractors often react to a slowdown in leads by increasing ad spending, which can exacerbate the problem.
    • Before allocating additional resources, it is crucial to assess whether leads are being effectively utilized.
    • Systemic issues within a business can often masquerade as market-related slowdowns, leading to misdirected efforts.
    • Effective lead management requires prompt follow-up and a structured approach to nurture leads over time.

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Contractor Freedom
    • Facebook
    • Ringcentral
    • Angie
    • Nextdoor

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  • From Addiction and Cancer to Contractor Freedom: Joe Carfagno’s Story
    2026/06/16

    In this episode of the Contractor Freedom Podcast, Jason W. Phillips sits down with Joe Carfagno of Carfagno Professional Painting to unpack how Joe went from addiction, cancer, relapse, and starting over to building a growing painting business with real systems, team culture, and purpose.

    Joe shares how his company grew to 10 painters, 3 office team members, and $1.8M last year. He also talks about his recent best month ever, closing $265,000 in April and hitting two $95,000 weeks after attending F7 Boot Camp.

    This conversation covers the personal and business side of Contractor Freedom: getting out of owner-operator chaos, learning your numbers, improving your sales process, leading your team, building company culture, and creating a business that supports faith, family, freedom, and purpose.

    Takeaways:

    • The Contractor Freedom Podcast aims to liberate small business owners from the constraints of contractor prison, enabling them to achieve personal fulfillment beyond their business pursuits.
    • Jason Phillips, the host, emphasizes the importance of life skills, love, leadership, and business acumen for entrepreneurs seeking to enhance their operational efficiency and personal growth.
    • Guests on the podcast, such as Joe Carfagno, share their transformative journeys from adversity to success, highlighting the resilience required to overcome significant life challenges and build thriving enterprises.
    • The discussion underscores the critical role of coaching and community in fostering a supportive environment for contractors, illustrating how collaboration can lead to personal and professional development.
    • Business growth is often accompanied by the necessity of adapting to new systems and practices, which may involve relinquishing control and embracing delegation for improved scalability.
    • The podcast articulates that true freedom extends beyond financial gain, encompassing personal wellness, spiritual alignment, and the quality of relationships in one’s life.

    Links referenced in this episode:

    • contractorfreedomlive.com

    Companies mentioned in this episode:

    • Carfagnum Professional Painting
    • Teen Challenge
    • Morristown Medical Center
    • Paintcon
    • John Mitchell

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  • From 30% to 62% GP: How 605 Painting Built a Real Freedom Machine
    2026/06/09

    In this episode of the Contractor Freedom Podcast, Jason W. Phillips sits down with Kyle Schuh of 605 Painting to unpack how their company moved from owner-operator chaos to a more scalable, profitable business.

    Kyle shares the behind-the-scenes story of how 605 Painting improved gross profit from around 30% to 62%, hit $1M in a quarter, and began building the systems, sales process, and team alignment needed to create real Contractor Freedom.

    This conversation goes beyond revenue. Jason and Kyle talk about what happens when contractors stop relying on heroics, stop selling from fear, and start building a company that can grow without the owner being chained to every decision.

    You’ll hear practical lessons on pricing, sales, leadership, team buy-in, and why more leads are not always the answer. The real path to freedom is closing the right jobs, at the right price, with the right margins — a core Contractor Freedom message.

    This episode is for painting contractors, home improvement business owners, and trades entrepreneurs who want to build a business that creates time, money, and freedom — not just more work.

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    36 分
  • He Rebuilt His Life and Built a $1.8M Painting Business
    2026/06/02

    In this episode of the Contractor Freedom Podcast, Jason Phillips sits down with Konrad Derheim of Derheim Painting for a powerful conversation about rebuilding, refocusing, and growing a painting business through one of the hardest seasons of his life.

    Konrad shares how he went from feeling overwhelmed and stuck to building a $1.8M painting company by getting clear on the right work, making hard leadership decisions, improving his sales process, and learning how to build a business that could support both growth and freedom.

    This conversation is for contractors who have built something successful on paper but still feel trapped by the pressure, decisions, and daily chaos of the business. Jason and Konrad talk honestly about what it takes to move from survival mode into real leadership and how focus, systems, pricing, and team development can change the future of a company.

    If you’re a painting contractor, remodeling business owner, or home improvement entrepreneur who wants to escape Contractor Prison and build a business that gives back your time, peace, and purpose, this episode is for you.

    Topics include painting business growth, contractor leadership, building a team, raising prices, creating systems, overcoming hard seasons, and finding Contractor Freedom.

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    39 分
  • How To Buy Back Your Time & Make More Money
    2024/07/03
    Jason Phillips: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Contractor Freedom Podcast. I'm your host, Jason Phillips. This show exists to help small business owners like you escape the tyranny of contractor prison and enter the bliss of contractor freedom so you can have the time, money, and freedom to live your life with purpose beyond your business.As a certified human behavior consultant in DISC personality styles and motivators, I'll be sharing with you skills for life and business. I'll also be connecting you with experts that can help you scale your business and your life. So if you want to build the business and life of your dreams, then you are in the right place.Let's go! All right, welcome back, everybody. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce a special guest who is truly a beacon of innovation and leadership in the home service industry. Billy Kline, the owner of YourNewDoor. com is here with us. Billy runs a family business. Metro area and Billy and I have been online friends for quite a while now, but we recently got to spend some time talking in [00:01:00] person when he, uh, generally offered to take me to the airport in Austin, rather than me hailing an Uber.So I really appreciate that, Billy. And Billy made a choice to a few years ago to eject the status quo in his business and to, and to change the game. And since then, he's made some impress impressive strides in his business. And I'm sure that you are going to be inspired by his story. One of the things that I really.Appreciate about Billy is how humble and hungry he is. And plus he's got a heart to give back and to help others. So Billy, welcome to the Contractor Freedom Podcast. It's fantastic to have you here with us today. Billy Cline: Hey Jason, I appreciate you having me on. It's an honor. There's one thing in this world I like to talk about is business, right?I'm very awkward a lot of times when we get into social events or settings, right? Like, I don't want to talk about much. I don't like talking about baseball or sports much, but I want to talk about business. So if I can corner someone at a party or something like that, it wants to talk business, you know, they can't shut me up.But otherwise, a lot of times I sit around and don't say much. So I enjoy these, We know Jason Phillips: if we revisit that. That little [00:02:00] talk we had on the way to the airport, you know, you told me where the way your business used to be. Can you just give me a, give us a, give the listeners a glimpse of, of how did things used to be with, with your company and you?Billy Cline: Well, you know, we spoke a little bit and I referenced that, you know, the path that you're on and what you do and what you speak about, contractor prison and breaking out of that. I was the epitome of that, right? Like my, my business owned me. I didn't have a, I didn't have a business. I had a job really.Right. And my number one goal every week was to sell enough jobs to make payroll. Right? And it was really one of those scenarios where I couldn't afford to take a day off. I couldn't miss a day. If something went wrong on a job where we didn't get paid for that job, we were going to miss payroll. And you know, it was always something, right?Like it was literally what you hear and what you think when someone talks about being a firefighter in their business. If, you know, you know, Honestly, it's probably was a good exercise for me to go through because now when something's on fire around here, I just sit around and, you know, it doesn't, I don't get excited about it because I've been through way worse.Right. [00:03:00] So, but it was literally, you know, five alarms every day, just trying to keep the wheels on the bus. Somebody doesn't show up, you know, somebody messed up a project, something was missold or whatever. Right. So it was always something and I just got tired of it one day. Honestly, almost quit. My wife and I went to church.And we stopped at, I'll never forget it, we stopped at Burger Street on the way back from church and had a conversation that we were going to quit offering a certain aspect of our business just because it was just so burdensome. And I was ready to quit. And I'm glad that I didn't because in three or four instances in my life, I've been right at that edge to where things were, you know, ready to quit.And it's like, it was literally like, just, that was the edge that we broke over and things started to break open for us and change. Mostly my mindset and my attitude. But it really, after we, after I, uh, got over not quitting and getting over that, it was like the skies opened up and, you know, God was ready for us to do, you know, what, uh, we were supposed to do.Jason Phillips: Billy, has there been a time [00:04:00] when, can you take us back to a time and maybe that was it, when you felt completely, you know, overwhelmed by your business and it was, it brought you to maybe even a breaking point? How long, uh, are we Billy Cline: recording today...
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  • This Is Why You're Not Closing Sales feat. Joe Covarrubias
    2024/04/17
    Jason Phillips: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Contractor Freedom Podcast. I'm your host, Jason Phillips. This show exists to help small business owners like you escape the tyranny of Contractor Freedom and enter the bliss of Contractor Freedom so you can have the Time, Money, and Freedom to Live Your Life With Purpose Beyond Your Business.As a certified human behavior consultant in DISC personality styles and motivators, I'll be sharing with you skills for life, love, leadership, and business. I'll also be connecting you with experts that can help you scale your business and your life. So if you want to build the business and life of your dreams, then you are in the right place.Let's go.Jason Phillips: Hello Contractors, we've got a great episode for you today. I have with me today Mr. Joe Covarrubias. He is the, the shy, quiet type. No, for those of you that know Joe, no, he's not the shy, quiet type. Joe's our VP and he has been, training the salespeople at our home improvement company for, I [00:01:00] think, eight years now.Eight years. And so we're going to learn some insights from Joe so that you can take your sales organization to higher levels. Hey Joe, welcome to the show today. Joe Covarrubias: Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. I always love Visiting with you on a different level other than a boss employee relationship.I love just sharing and chatting. So thank you for having me. Jason Phillips: I'm glad you were able to take some time out of VP prison. No. So you've, you know, you've trained quite a few salespeople. And the reason we're doing this episode today is because so many of our business owner friends.are at the place where they've hired their first salesperson and the new salesperson for whatever reason can't seem to close the deal like the business owner. And I thought we might diagnose for them some possible things of what could be going on. So, you know, what would be the first thing, you know, if a guy comes in, Hey Joe, my new salesperson, he's not closing deals like I was.Can you help me diagnose it? You know, what's the first thing you would look at? Joe Covarrubias: Well, the first thing I would look at [00:02:00] is, you know, I've been real fortunate to kind of go on this journey with you of the behavior profiles. And when I first started as a sales manager here at Phillips, I didn't have, I wasn't as educated as I was, and I was just hiring guys who had the gift of gap, you know, just sales guys, right?But as I've been along on this journey with you, With regard to behavior profile, that'd be the first question I ask. What is this guy's, is he in a seat that, is he in the right seat? I mean, be great guy. He may be a, his, it is this profile may be a sales profile, but it could be a long sales cycle. There's different sales.And here at Philips, you know, we work, we try to nurture a one call close environment. And there's a certain profile that. That does that. So if they're not closing OTS on the spot, that's probably the first place up. Jason Phillips: Is the personality profile. Interesting. Something near and dear to my heart. Yeah, exactly.You know, it makes me think about if we look at external things and we look at like sports. Right. You know, there's a typical physique of someone who's winning medals in swimming. Joe Covarrubias: Right. Jason Phillips: And [00:03:00] you know, from their height, their leg length versus their upper body length. And then their lungs. This is the same thing for like marathon runners.Sure. And let's say basketball players or sumo wrestlers or boxers. Right. Or it's like in any professional sport for, let's say individual sports for now, there are. Some typical physiques or body makeups that put you at an advantage automatically. The other guys can still outwork you and work harder than you, but there's things that give you the edge.And it's kind of like that, it's like personalities. And you know, I'll never forget when one of the times that this really hit me. Hit home to me was when we were initially teaching the team how to knock on the door and, you know, and our, one of the things we want to do is we show up with a clipboard with our paper, right?And it's got, you know, it's got both property owners on it, typically a husband and a wife, and we don't know who's answering the door. But in a scenario, you know, if the husband answers the door and our paperwork says that we're supposed to meet with [00:04:00] John and Jane, then we need to, you know, say, well, Hey, Mr.Krubitsch, I see I'm supposed to be meeting with a you and Jane, is Jane available? And that question, when I was working with people that had the wrong personality style, that question scared the crap out of them. Joe Covarrubias: It can, it, if you don't have the right profile, it can be uncomfortable. Jason Phillips: But it's such a simple.Joe Covarrubias: It's simple, you know, with a with ourselves, there's a series of what we call soft. And every, ...
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  • Master the Art of Connection: Best Kept Secrets Reveal w/ Janell Roedl
    2024/03/06
    Jason Phillips: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Contractor Freedom Podcast. I'm your host, Jason Phillips. This show exists to help small business owners like you escape the tyranny of Contractor Freedom and enter the bliss of Contractor Freedom so you can have the Time, Money, and Freedom to Live Your Life With Purpose Beyond Your Business.As a certified human behavior consultant in DISC personality styles and motivators, I'll be sharing with you skills for life, love, leadership, and business. I'll also be connecting you with experts that can help you scale your business and your life. So if you want to build the business and life of your dreams, then you are in the right place.Let's go.Jason Phillips: Hello, contractors. I ignored these resources. For so many years, and I kept hearing about all the amazing resources that the PCA had available for its members. And even though I've been a member for a long time, I had been a member for a long time, I never really took the time to check these things out because I was always busy running my [00:01:00] business.Well today, I've got great news. We're opening the closet turning on the light in today's episode We're diving in with the PCA's own Janelle Roedl the PCA member advocate I want you to stick around till the end because I guarantee you're gonna discover one or more multiple resources that you can use To solve your business challenges, stand on the shoulders of the giants that have gone before you, save you time, money, and headaches.Janelle, welcome to the show.Janell Roedl: Thank you, Jason. I am honored and it's a pleasure to be here.Jason Phillips: Well, I am so glad that we connected. Janelle, would you, would you take a moment to share with everybody, you know, what's your role? What, what is, what is the member coordinator at the PCA?Janell Roedl: Absolutely, I'd love to. So my title now is Member Advocate and I kind of gravitate more towards that title because it really shows that my role is on the side of the painting contractor. Not [00:02:00] PCA, but I'm here to create a premier experience for PCA members. , we do that in a variety of ways by providing resources and connecting our contractors with those resources.We have so many that it's often a challenge. One of the biggest challenges is, Finding those resources. So it's my role to help do that. , to answer questions, troubleshoot just problems, issues, connect with you. Take feedback. I would love any feedback on, the PCA, the resources we offer, the member experience, because I just want to make it better.My heart is service. I love people. I love connecting withJason Phillips: Well, you know, I, I love, I love that. And I appreciate you sharing that. One of the things that's frustrating is when you're working within as a business owner, or let's just say as a consumer at all, you're working with an organization or you're working with, with a, with a company and. You're like, who do I call for this?Who do I call for that? I mean, just recently my company, we had been working with another company that was going to deliver some [00:03:00] stuff to us and, some digital goods to us. And they had so many departments and people, we didn't really have a single point of contact. And so hearing you just say, look, that's my job. So I think that is, Janell Roedl: Yeah. I'm your girl.Jason Phillips: so before the end of this episode, you guys are going to learn how to get in touch with Janelle so she can answer, any questions, that you have. So let's, you know, the, the, the PCA, the Painting Contractors Association, for those of you that aren't familiar, significant anniversary this year?Janell Roedl: There is, this year marks our 140th anniversary and that just blows my mind. We have a hard time thinking in generations like that. So, yeah, been around a long time, as you mentioned, standing on the shoulders of the giants that have come before us, we don't have to reinvent the wheel. We just grow over 140 years and that's like one of, the big benefits of aligning with the PCA is aligning painting contractors with an organization that has 140 years of legacy behindJason Phillips: that is, thatJanell Roedl: we're excited.Jason Phillips: So, you know, let's, let's talk about the vision. Like, , if so [00:04:00] many contractors, I still meet contractors who don't even know, painting contractors who don't even know who the PCA is Janell Roedl: Right. We still say it's the best kept secretJason Phillips: would, I would agree with that. Why does the PCA exist?Janell Roedl: great question. it exists very similar to what you told me your mission is, to elevate the painting industry, to bring professionalization to the painting industry. In the very early days, it was more designed to advocate for, painting contractors, as we have evolved and grown. And more recently, the PCA is here to discover the challenges and the pain points of our painting contractors.and meet those needs and we do that through ...
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