What does "business casual" actually mean? Apparently, nobody knows — and that's only the beginning.

On this Casual Friday episode of Not All Business, Blakely and Heather tackle three of the messiest workplace questions out there:

• Is using dating apps to land job interviews genius or deeply creepy?

• What does "business casual" actually mean when you're a curvy woman in a world of inconsistent dress codes?

• How do you fire someone without losing sleep for three nights straight — or ending up in the ER with a panic attack?

They cap it off with a Rapid Fire round of Agree or Disagree — from two-week notices to salary transparency to office romances — and Blakely finally wins one.

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Links & Mentions:

• Bloomberg: "Tough Job Market Has People Using Dating Apps to Get Interviews" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-29/tough-job-market-has-people-using-dating-apps-to-get-interviews-mjqzm1bo

• After School by Casey Lewis (Substack — Gen Z trends newsletter Blakely references) https://afterschool.substack.com/

• Call Her Daddy: Michelle Obama — "We Still Go High" (episode referenced in the dress code conversation) https://open.spotify.com/episode/0upwE3EgwAmK9RxqeJeMZp

• Dr. Bronner's 5-to-1 CEO Pay Ratio (mentioned by Clay during salary transparency discussion) https://www.drbronner.com/blogs/our-employees/progressive-business-practices

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