In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about grief and loss. They acknowledge that this is an experience that we all go through and is such a, part of the roller coaster of life.

They know joy and pain, loss and gain, celebration and sadness. So together, they chat about how we can navigate all of this, helping one another, from what can feel like utter lostness, to discovering hope from the different elements of grief, the wisdom of Psalm 23, all the way to creating legacy.

This was a very tender and important conversation.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the questions we ask trying to find home. They discuss those searching questions that have been asked for thousands of years.

Questions of human longing: Am I of worth? Do I matter? Is there a God? And does that God love me? They recognise just how important it is to stop and notice these curious longings when we are experiencing them.

They get onto Maslow and try to debunk some of the misunderstandings and misconceptions about what Maslow said and believe. And they talk about the four S's: seen, safe, soothed and secure, and how these reflect the deep questions we have.

And they look to the story of the Prodigal Son that Jesus told where we see how important it is to come to our senses and see where and what home actually is.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about how God can get hijacked for violence and war. Theye end up exploring how sacred texts can be so easily misinterpreted.

And they discuss how important it is for anyone who reads and references them to interrogate them and do the hard work of understanding. And they uncover, how, when we understand the books of the Bible this way, you can't help but get to the way of love.

They go deep in this episode. They needed to. This stuff really matters. We hope it helps you go deeper too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about some major misconceptions. It all starts with an experience walking down Oxford Street and being left with a multitude of questions.

They dive into words like repent and sinner and what they meant at the time of Jesus in 1st century Palestine. They talk about the courage to think differently and to challenge our assumptions, and they go on to explore how those with power can use narratives to control.

They even try to unpack the influence of the Mediaeval Church and a novel by Dante that have shaped so much understanding and theology today. This is a big conversation that covers some big ideas that we believe we must wrestle with and when we do, it literally changes everything.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about raising one another's humanity. They discuss the need to face up to the dehumanising that we see in society and the impact when othering starts and blame is directed towards those who are different to us.

They explore together just how powerful it is to know people by name, to listen to and learn about their storey, and to always, always, always raise our humanity and connection above everything else.

And through it all, they come to understand that when we choose to humanise rather than blame, we are transformed along with the world around us. That makes this conversation a must listen.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about joy as an act of resistance.

When things feel despairing, we can still seek out joy.

Being able to dwell in joy takes planning and intention, and in time, what we do deliberately becomes second nature to us.

Even when surrounded by despair, whether it’s eating together, singing together or serving together, joy can be the outcome from which everyone benefits.

In these acts, we declare that a different way is possible.

We pray this episode helps you to see all the joy that does exist in the world, even amongst chaos and uncertainty.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about great expectations. They chat through how we can get stuck in maintenance, creating dependency rather than challenging injustice and reaching for progress.

They think about how vital it is to not settle, but to keep pushing for the fullest of lives as we live into our God given potential, living at our peak, loving God and our neighbour as ourselves.

Inclusion is always about more than going beyond what is and keeping on, keeping on. We pray you find possibility for yourself and others in this conversation.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about finding our way in uncertainty. How do they handle it? How do they find a way of living with and within, ambiguity?

Together, they talk about fears and wonderings and remember that listening to one another really matters. Holding on to those around us brings us strength and courage, especially because things don't always work out.

It's just how life goes sometimes. But the invitation of uncertainty is to lean into our individual and shared courage. And maybe, however small that might feel, hold on as we move through what feels untethered.

What a fantastic and tender conversation.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.