In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew and Heather are joined by David Krall, pastor of adult ministries and director of DMH, to wrap up the imitation week of the 21-Day Challenge and step into the final movement of the Disciples Diamond, innovate.

This one gets real fast. Heather opens with a story about her son Porter threatening a classmate with a neck chop, and the mortifying realization that he learned it from her. That's the episode in a nutshell. Someone is always imitating us whether we know it or not. The question is what is our life actually pointing to when we're not thinking about it.

From there the conversation goes deep on spiritual disciplines, not as a performance or a checklist but as the only way to slow down long enough to let God actually form us. Fasting, Sabbath, silence, solitude. Not extra things to add to your life but fundamental things that create space for transformation. Because imitation is not a fake it till you make it situation. Proximity will always reveal what is actually there.

David shares what it looked like to come back to his first love, joy in Jesus, and how that one shift from professional pastor to everyday follower changed everything. Drew talks about ugly crying in a staff meeting over his yet to believe ones. And both of them land on the same truth. It's really simple. But it's not easy. And those are not the same thing.

The episode closes with a look at innovation and multiplication, from Pam baking bread for her neighbors, to a young adult who realized his role is now to disciple his own parents, to the vision that every person at every church could one day say disciples are made here wherever I live work and play.

This is the Season 1 finale. And it ends the way every good campfire does, with stories worth telling and a clap to break huddle.

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What is spiritual formation in the context of our daily lives? In this episode, we dive into the heart of missional living and explore why the choice isn't evangelism or discipleship—it’s both. We discuss the cost of discipleship by looking at our own "R1" relationship with Christ. Whether you're focused on outreach at work or discipleship in your home, learn how to move from "autopilot" to intentional presence.

In this episode of the Disciples Made Here podcast, Drew sits down with one of his closest friends, mentors, and pastors — Rick Dunn. This is a conversation that has been over a decade in the making, and it shows.
Rick is a pastor, leadership coach, and spiritual father who has spent decades helping leaders stop trying to be God and start being sons. In this episode, he and Drew unpack what it actually looks like to move from identify to invite — not by launching a program or a gospel presentation, but by simply showing up. With compassion. With courage. With curiosity.
From the story of how Drew and Rick met in a small cohort of large church pastors, to Rick's time coaching basketball as his most meaningful ministry, to the moment his own daughter told him "now you'll know the impact" — this episode is a masterclass in what faithful, humble, proximate discipleship actually looks like over a lifetime.
Rick also introduces one of the most clarifying phrases in the episode: compassionate courageous curiosity. And closes with a word that every listener needs to hear. You have the freedom to be faithful. So get in the game.
Most people die with their music still inside of them. Don't be one of them.
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Reflection Questions

Who has shown up for you in a way that changed your life? Have you told them?
Who in your life right now is looking for someone to show up for them? What would it look like to take one step toward them this week?
Are you approaching the people around you with compassionate courageous curiosity — or are you leading with your title, your agenda, or your fear?

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