Ryder Jack is one of the country's most experienced facilitators of men's emotional health. He's also been in therapy for almost a year because he can't cry.

Not because something catastrophic happened. Just because he realised he'd switched something off a long time ago and wanted to know why.

This one left me equal parts energised and exhausted. I loved it.

If you've ever hit a goal and felt nothing, this one's for you.

Riding shotgun in this ep of Driving DnMs is Josh Piterman.

Josh is an elite performer, author and high-performance coach.

He’s the 1% of the 1% being the only Australian ever to play the Phantom in Phantom Of The Opera and Jean Valjean in Les Misérables.

In this ep Josh and I discuss what he had for lunch, plus he opens up about what happens when you reach the top and it doesn't fix anything. Josh also talks about getting bullied at school for wanting to sing and dance, telling his mates he was bisexual just to make it stop.

What you'll get out of this episode:

• Why getting what you worked for can leave you feeling hollower than before
• The "not enoughness" system that's quietly running most people's lives
• A practical exercise to reconnect with who you were before the world got to you
• Why messy, imperfect vulnerability is more powerful than polished performance
• What it really costs to wear a mask, from a man who literally wore one on the world's biggest stage

More of his coaching work can be found at www.gobehindthemask.com.au