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Join hosts Ben Kornell and guest co-host Matt Tower, as they break down the biggest stories shaping AI, edtech efficacy, cybersecurity, and the future of work in education.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:00:33] Rapid rise of AI-generated “vibe coding” raises concerns about software vulnerabilities and cybersecurity risks
[00:02:44] ASU+GSV preview highlights the importance of relationships over deal-making at major edtech gatherings
[00:08:26] Anthropic’s Mythos model withheld due to its ability to uncover critical security flaws across systems
[00:11:37] Growing need for AI systems to defend against AI-driven cybersecurity threats
[00:14:18] Schools question edtech effectiveness amid too many tools and limited evidence of impact
[00:15:23] Debate over screen time intensifies as some classrooms move toward eliminating devices
[00:20:47] Discussion on whether smaller, more personalized school models better serve students
[00:26:08] OpenAI faces leadership changes and increasing competition from Anthropic and Google
[00:30:30] Big Tech’s varying levels of investment in education reshape the competitive landscape
[00:33:25] AI disrupts entry-level job markets, raising concerns about college graduate employment
[00:36:12] Future workforce will demand adaptability, entrepreneurship, and continuous learning

Plus, special guest:
[00:37:34] Yoon Yang, CEO and Co-founder of Pensive, on AI-powered grading and personalized tutoring in higher education

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Brandon Cardet-Hernandez is the Founder and CEO of Medley Learning, a platform building AI-powered scaffolding tools for multilingual learners. A former multilingual learner himself, Brandon has served as a teacher, turnaround principal, Boston School Committee member, NYC education advisor, and edtech leader. His work focuses on closing the access gap, not lowering expectations.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. Why education has an access gap, not just an achievement gap
2. The dangers of over-scaffolding and “AI slop”
3. How AI can embed rigor without lowering standards
4. A new workflow for supporting multilingual learners
5. Why implementation determines impact

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:01:58] Brandon’s journey and the educators who changed his life
[00:10:50] The “ELL trap” and lowering cognitive demand
[00:15:11] Student-controlled, embedded scaffolds in real time
[00:23:58] Why strong district champions matter for implementation
[00:27:24] AI’s promise: turning research into daily practice
[00:30:02] The risk of “AI slop” in classrooms
[00:31:52] Building AI policy around knowledge not fear

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Dr. Magdalena H. Gross of Mercor is a Stanford-trained scholar and a leader in AI education. With a unique ability to understand how people think, she helps experts translate deep human knowledge into AI-ready systems. She designs AI curricula and training programs that empower individuals and organizations, while also leading in community arts and muralism. Learn more about her work at www.magdalenagross.com.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. How human experts actually train AI through structured thinking and feedback
2. Why making “invisible thinking visible” is key to both learning and AI development
3. The parallels between reinforcement learning in AI and how humans learn
4. How breaking down reasoning into steps improves both teaching and model performance
5. Why interdisciplinary thinking is essential for solving complex problems with AI

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:02:48] What “human data” really means: experts training AI through deep domain knowledge
[00:05:30] From binary labeling to reinforcement learning: how AI training now mirrors human learning
[00:07:47] Spiral curriculum at scale: how experts and AI both improve through repetition and complexity
[00:10:44] Cognitive modeling: making expert thinking visible to accelerate learning
[00:13:28] Breaking down reasoning: categorizing how humans think across domains
[00:16:28] Why interdisciplinary thinking drives breakthroughs in humans and AI
[00:18:58] The future of human data work: expanding alongside the growth of human knowledge

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

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Join hosts Ben Kornell and special co-host Steve Shapiro, Founder of Finetune.AI, as they break down the biggest stories shaping AI, workforce disruption, K–12 policy, and the future of higher education.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:05:10] NVIDIA signals the shift from AI experimentation to a full-scale platform “land grab”
[00:08:19] Early signs of AI-driven productivity gains point to real workforce disruption
[00:13:16] Governments invest in AI retraining, labor upskilling, and workforce preparedness
[00:15:27] Apprenticeships emerge as a critical pathway as entry-level jobs decline
[00:17:17] AI “agent armies” could make one-person businesses more viable than ever
[00:19:23] Schools balance AI literacy initiatives with rising pressure for screen bans
[00:21:23] Debate grows over big tech’s responsibility in supporting education systems
[00:24:14] Media backlash questions edtech’s impact on student learning outcomes
[00:28:00] School choice expands rapidly, with mixed impacts across states
[00:32:09] ASU highlighted as a leading model for AI-ready higher education
[00:34:10] Edtech funding shifts to more deals with smaller check sizes
[00:36:01] Startups scale faster with less capital due to AI-powered development
[00:37:41] Optimism grows for edtech innovation over the next 12–24 months

Plus, special guests:
[00:38:59] Aaron Cuny, CEO of AI for Equity, on building AI leadership capacity in school systems
[01:06:39] Joshua Broggi, CEO and Founder of Woolf, on rethinking higher education with competency-based models

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

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Mindy Sjoblom is the Founder and CEO of OnYourMark, a research-backed virtual tutoring organization serving thousands of elementary students nationwide. Catherine Tierney is Head of Product and Program at OnYourMark, bringing deep experience from Match Education, MyCoach, and ThinkCERCA to the design of human-centered, evidence-based learning technology.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode

1. Why AI works best as an insight layer rather than a replacement for human tutors
2. How OnYourMark scaled high-dosage tutoring while maintaining quality and consistency
3. What it takes to translate RCT-backed research into daily instructional practice
4. Where human judgment remains essential in AI-supported tutoring models
5. How the role of AI in learning may differ across age groups and contexts

✨ Episode Highlights
[00:02:38] Mindy Sjoblom on OnYourMark’s origins and scaling high-dosage tutoring post-pandemic
[00:05:59] Catherine Tierney on designing AI to strengthen—not replace—human relationships
[00:07:36] How RCT evidence and authentic learning data power OnYourMark’s AI tools
[00:12:04] Real-time feedback and why tutors want more visibility into their practice
[00:15:36] The tension between flexibility and fidelity when scaling tutoring across schools
[00:16:21] The future of AI-supported human tutoring and what the next five years may hold
[00:19:55] Why AI use in learning must look different for younger vs. older students
[00:22:20] What excites—and worries—Mindy and Catherine about AI in education today

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Join hosts Alex Sarlin and Ben Kornell as they explore the latest developments in education technology, from OpenAI’s push into interactive learning to new research on AI efficacy, growing AI backlash, and rising cybersecurity threats in K–12 schools.

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:05:30] OpenAI launches a new suite of 70+ interactive science and math learning experiences built on cognitive science and visual learning principles
[00:12:22] Stanford and SCALE release a meta-analysis of 800+ AI education studies finding only 20 with strong causal evidence of learning impact
[00:19:44] Growing backlash against AI, screen time, and edtech as public concern rises about technology’s impact on children and learning
[00:21:10] Clever report finds more than half of school districts have experienced cyberattacks and 81% believe AI is increasing cybersecurity risk

Plus, special guest:
[00:29:19] Oliver Page, Co-founder and CEO of CyberNut, on why K–12 schools are uniquely vulnerable to phishing attacks and cyber threats

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.

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Dr. Rachel Book is an education leader at Lincoln Learning Solutions with over 20 years of experience in early childhood and student development. Charlie Thayer, Chief Academic Officer, brings 15+ years in online and blended learning, specializing in scalable, instructionally sound solutions.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. The difference between generic AI tools and purpose-built AI for education
2. How AI can extend teacher capacity without replacing human instruction
3. Practical AI use cases that support both teachers and students
4. Why AI guardrails, safety, and age-appropriate design matter
5. The risks of AI shortcuts and the importance of building AI literacy early

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:03:15] Defining purpose-built AI vs. generic AI in education
[00:07:22] Real classroom AI use cases: data insights and teacher support
[00:09:48] AI for younger learners: voice, engagement, and curiosity
[00:12:20] What school leaders should look for in AI tools
[00:14:59] The biggest risks: AI replacing thinking and human interaction
[00:18:57] First reactions to Lincoln AI and the “wow” factor in classrooms
[00:20:29] How AI dashboards give teachers actionable insights
[00:21:50] Expanding teacher capacity through AI-driven visibility

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Tuck Advisors was founded by entrepreneurs who built and sold their own companies, frustrated by other m and a firms, they created the one they wished they could have hired but couldn't find. One who understands what matters to founders and whose North Star KPI is the percentage of deals closed. If you're thinking of selling your ed tech company or buying one contact Tuck advisors now.

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Josh Jones is the CEO of QuantHub, an edtech and workforce company advancing data and AI literacy across K–12, higher education, government, and enterprise. A serial entrepreneur and former data science consultant, Josh has spent decades helping organizations adapt to rapid technological change.

💡 5 Things You’ll Learn in This Episode:

1. Why AI education should focus on durable skills, not specific tools
2. How schools can adapt curriculum faster without sacrificing rigor
3. The difference between AI literacy and AI fluency
4. Practical guidance on student AI use, ethics, and assessment
5. What institutions must change to stay resilient in an exponential tech era

✨ Episode Highlights:
[00:02:00] Why QuantHub was built to keep pace with accelerating AI change
[00:04:30] The mismatch between slow curriculum cycles and fast-moving AI
[00:06:40] Teaching meta-skills like critical thinking, ethics, and change management
[00:09:00] Mapping AI and data skills into existing K–12 and higher-ed standards
[00:11:45] Why banning ChatGPT creates more problems than it solves
[00:13:40] Institutions leading the way on clear, fair AI policies
[00:15:40] What schools must rethink to stay relevant over the next decade

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Innovation in preK to gray learning is powered by exceptional people. For over 15 years, EdTech companies of all sizes and stages have trusted HireEducation to find the talent that drives impact. When specific skills and experiences are mission-critical, HireEducation is a partner that delivers. Offering permanent, fractional, and executive recruitment, HireEducation knows the go-to-market talent you need. Learn more at HireEdu.com.

Cooley LLP is the go-to law firm for education and edtech innovators, offering industry-informed counsel across the 'pre-K to gray' spectrum. With a multidisciplinary approach and a powerful edtech ecosystem, Cooley helps shape the future of education.