On the 42nd episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, host Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) is joined by Amy Herzog, VP & CISO at Amazon Web Services. AWS is the world's largest cloud provider, and its active defense systems process more than 400 trillion network flows every day. Amy explains why AI changes the speed and cost of security rather than its fundamentals, why vulnerability management is collapsing from a month to minutes, and why autonomous agents need their own identity and authorization models rather than the controls built for people.

Quick Hits from Amy:

On the scale that makes automation non-negotiable: "We process over 400 trillion network flows a day."

On the end of the patch cycle: "We can't talk about 30-day patch cycles anymore."

On why agents cannot be governed like people: "They are trained to seek a goal."

Book Recommendation: Measure What Matters by John Doerr

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Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.

On the 41st episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, hosts Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) and Mike Britton (CIO, Abnormal AI) talk with Matt Bunch, VP & Global CISO at Tyson Foods, about how Tyson Foods is modernizing its security operations with AI, and why AI-speed threats make the basics more important, not less.

Quick Hits from Matt:

On AI adoption across every role: "We're using the mantra 'all in on AI.' And when we say all in, it is everyone all in on AI."

On AI risk: "What is a prompt injection issue? It's a data validation issue. That's really all it is."

On agentic AI governance: "We're going to have to put guardrails in place that don't exist today to understand what the models are doing, what the agents are doing. Are they really doing what we asked them to do, or are they trying to go outside of their defined scope?"

Book Recommendation: The Art of Negotiating by Gerard I. Nierenberg.

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Enterprise AI Defenders is a show where top security executives share specific ways AI changes the threat landscape and the defenses that hold up in real environments.

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Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.

On the 40th episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, host Mike Britton (CIO, Abnormal AI) is joined by Keith Gordon, Chief Security Officer at CIBC. Keith shares how a top-25 US bank is hardening its client-facing defenses with in-house behavioral biometrics, why third parties are the next exposed layer in financial services, and how the bank is governing agentic identities as the next phase of identity-first defense.

Quick Hits from Keith:

On the operating principle: "We've got to build AI for security... But we also have to have security for AI."

On the client as the new threat surface: "The client is the path of least resistance and the lowest on the maturity scale."

On governing agents: “they’re a kind of micro-segmentation in the AI age"

Book Recommendation: How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.

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Enterprise AI Defenders is a show where top security executives share specific ways AI changes the threat landscape and the defenses that hold up in real environments.

Find more great insights from technology leaders and enterprise software experts at https://www.enterprisesoftware.blog/

Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.