What does wealth actually look like once you’ve built enough to realize money alone isn’t the point anymore?

In this episode of the Yes, And! Podcast, Bunny chats with commercial real estate broker, entrepreneur, and investor Joe Killinger for a conversation that moves far beyond buying property or chasing money.

Joe shares the story of building a company while surviving the pressure of entrepreneurship with barely any money in the bank. The ace up his sleeve? Growing businesses through relationships, consistency, and long-term thinking.

Bunny and Joe talk about what wealth actually means when freedom becomes more valuable than status. They talk about building companies instead of jobs, surrounding yourself with people smarter than you, burnout, entrepreneurship, investing, leadership, and the responsibility that comes with success.

And somewhere in the middle of all of it, this episode becomes a conversation about legacy. About building something bigger than yourself. About creating a life that feels meaningful while you’re living it, not just impressive from the outside.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro Yes, And!

02:30 Why the best CEOs surround themselves with smarter people

06:40 The insane story behind 410 acres in Malibu

12:30 Renting vs buying and how entrepreneurs should think about wealth

21:30 How Joe would build $5 million again in today’s market

25:30 Entrepreneurship, burnout, and staying in the game long term

28:30 What wealth actually means beyond money

34:30 The definition of a “Yes, And!” lifestyle

Connect with your host, Bunny Young:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bunnysumneryoung/

Website: https://www.abetterplaceconsulting.com/

Instagram: @thebunnyyoung

Connect with Joe Killinger:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-killingerrealestate/

Website: https://www.joekillinger.co/

YouTube: ⁨@JoeKillinger⁩