After building and selling Message Broadcast in a deal worth nearly $300 million, Bill Potter thought he might retire.
Instead, he started over.

In this episode of Good Business, Clay Vaughan and Luke Frazier welcome back Bill Potter to discuss what happened after his nine-figure exit, why he chose to lead DataCapable, and what he's learned about leadership, talent, AI, purpose, and legacy.

Bill shares why successful entrepreneurs don't stop creating, how he rebuilt one of the fastest-growing software companies in the utility industry, and why the greatest reward in business isn't money—it's the people whose lives you impact along the way.

From artificial intelligence and utility infrastructure to nonprofit work and servant leadership, this conversation is filled with wisdom from someone who has spent decades building companies and helping others do the same.
If you're a founder, executive, entrepreneur, or simply someone trying to build a life that matters, this episode is for you.

In this episode:
• Why Bill returned to building after a $300 million exit
• How DataCapable is transforming the utility industry
• Why AI won't replace wisdom and judgment
• The importance of making it easy to do business with you
• Building a world-class management team
• Why hiring mistakes cost time more than money
• Lessons learned from a mountain of mistakes
• How nonprofit work made Bill a better leader
• Why leadership is stewardship, not position
• The importance of beginning with the end in mind
• Creating wealth versus creating a legacy
• What defines good business

Quote from the Episode
"Leadership is not about position or title. It is about stewardship."

About Bill Potter
Bill Potter is the former CEO of Message Broadcast, which was acquired in a deal valued at nearly $300 million. Today, he serves as CEO of DataCapable, where he is leading the development of next-generation software solutions for utilities across North America. Bill is also deeply involved in philanthropic work supporting vulnerable children through Olive Crest.
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In this episode of Good Business, Clay Vaughan and Luke Frazier sit down with Power Ray founders Jarel Ray and Nefi LeBaron to discuss entrepreneurship, culture, leadership, and why they believe the future of energy will require entirely new ways of thinking.

From humble beginnings in Mexico to building one of the fastest-growing utility-scale solar companies in Texas, Jarel and Nefi share how hard work, faith, and a commitment to people have fueled their vision of creating a billion-dollar company built on purpose.

In this episode:
• Why Jarel believes major power outages could be coming to Texas
• The future of decentralized energy and community power systems
• Building a solar company in the heart of oil country
• Growing from 30 employees to hundreds in record time
• Scaling culture in a high-growth business
• Why integrity sometimes means walking away from money
• Lessons from growing up with very little in Mexico
• The role of faith, purpose, and service in leadership
• Why business should be about more than profit
• What defines a truly good business

Jarel and Nefi's story is a powerful reminder that great businesses are built by great people—and that success is ultimately about serving others.

If you're an entrepreneur, business owner, leader, or someone who believes business can be a force for good, this conversation is for you.

Key Moments:
00:00 Why Texas Could Face Major Power Outages
05:09 Meet Power Ray
08:08 Scaling From 30 to Hundreds of Employees
13:16 Building Solar in Oil Country
18:38 Where Drive and Ambition Come From
24:13 Empowering People Through Business
29:44 Growing Up in Mexico
41:20 Wrestling Crocodiles and Childhood Adventures
46:43 How Power Ray Was Founded
55:04 Is Texas Headed Toward Another Grid Crisis?
1:00:57 The Future of Energy
1:12:04 Why Core Values Matter
1:22:53 Building a Billion-Dollar Company
1:24:28 What Defines Good Business?

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What separates elite leaders and top-performing companies from everyone else?
According to Matt Harris, it is not just strategy.
It is psychology.

In this episode of Good Business, Clay and Luke sit down with Matt Harris, former Tony Robbins coach, former StoryBrand sales leader, and current talent development leader at CAZ Investments, for a deep conversation about leadership, hiring, emotional intelligence, culture, sales, and the psychology behind high performance.

Matt shares lessons from coaching entrepreneurs, executives, and high achievers for more than two decades, including what he learned working alongside Tony Robbins, Donald Miller, and the leadership team at CAZ Investments.

This episode explores how founders accidentally become bottlenecks, why culture must be intentionally built, how emotional patterns shape business outcomes, and why the best leaders focus on people just as much as profits.
If you are a founder, entrepreneur, sales leader, executive, or someone trying to build a healthier team and business, this conversation is packed with wisdom and practical insight.

What you’ll learn in this episode:
Why 80% of success in business is psychology
The hidden emotional patterns shaping leadership decisions
How Tony Robbins influenced Matt’s coaching philosophy
Why culture must be actively reinforced, not just written on a wall
How to identify “motor” and hunger in potential hires
The biggest hiring mistakes founders make
Why unhealthy significance destroys teams
The connection between sales, coaching, and empathy
How limiting beliefs quietly sabotage businesses and careers
Why founders struggle to let go of control
How CAZ Investments scales culture while growing rapidly
Why state management is critical for leadership and performance

Key moments:
00:00 “You don’t want garlic in your chocolate cake”
01:00 Introducing Matt Harris
02:00 How CAZ Investments hires and scales culture intentionally
04:00 The psychology behind hiring and leadership
08:00 Why emotions matter in high-performing organizations
11:00 Matt’s upbringing and learning hustle from his family
14:00 Discovering Tony Robbins through cassette tapes
16:00 The intense Tony Robbins coaching interview process
19:00 “80% of the game is psychology”
22:00 Story, state, and strategy explained
27:00 Driving from Iowa to Dallas to chase an opportunity
33:00 How coaching and sales are actually connected
38:00 Why empathy is the secret to great sales
42:00 Coaching leaders through limiting beliefs
45:00 Practical culture advice for founders and CEOs
50:00 The “24 promises” at CAZ Investments
57:00 Matt’s changing definition of success and control
1:00:00 Lessons from Tony Robbins, Donald Miller, and Christopher Zook
1:03:00 What makes CAZ Investments unique
1:06:00 The question every founder should ask themselves

About Matt Harris:
Matt Harris is a leadership coach, talent strategist, and sales leader who previously coached with Tony Robbins and helped build sales systems at StoryBrand. Today, he serves at CAZ Investments, helping shape company culture, leadership development, and talent acquisition for one of the fastest-growing investment firms in the country.

About CAZ Investments:
CAZ Investments is a thematic investment firm focused on long-term alignment, strategic investing, and identifying high-conviction opportunities across industries. The firm emphasizes disciplined investing, culture, and partnership alignment.

Connect with Matt Harris:
CAZ Investments: https://cazinvestments.com
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