Pauline Hanson reckons you can't sack a lazy worker anymore — and that paid parental leave is sending small businesses to the wall. Luke Bona takes those claims to AMP Chief Economist Shane Oliver for a reality check on interest rates, productivity, and whether Hanson's onto something.

Then a story you won't forget: gambling-harm campaigner Kate Seselja on the decade she lost to poker machines, why she calls it "addiction by design", and what every family needs to know. (Content warning: gambling harm and suicide — support below.)

Also this episode: $34 million of shark-spotting drones for 70 NSW beaches, Andrew Hastie's stoush with One Nation, Truckie Tuesday with former chief prosecutor Belinda Hughes, and your listener mail.

Guests: Shane Oliver (Chief Economist, AMP) · Kate Seselja (gambling-harm advocate) · Belinda Hughes (former chief prosecutor)

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:13:59) Shark drones return to NSW

(00:25:58) Listener mail

(00:27:27) Hastie vs One Nation

(00:34:24) Shane Oliver: rates & productivity

(00:52:10) Hanson's lazy-workers claim

(00:53:40) What a wedding costs

(01:03:57) Kate Seselja: a pokies nightmare (content warning)

(01:36:44) Gambling harm & suicide risk (content warning)

(01:45:56) Kate's advocacy & help

(01:53:49) Truckie Tuesday: Belinda Hughes

(02:06:16) DV fines vs traffic fines

(02:39:37) Wrap

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