Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo join Dr. Will Cole for a conversation that goes far deeper than anyone planned - in the best possible way. They share how they met through a sister's scheme and a missions trip to Honduras, what it was like to navigate the Duggar family's courtship process as an outsider, and how listening to 60-plus hours of Bill Gothard's teachings together cracked open everything Jinger had been raised to believe. They talk about church hurt, the difference between false teachers and God himself, what Jinger's book Becoming Free Indeed cost her to write, and how living under rule-based faith can quietly masquerade as real belief. Plus: feeding 19 kids, the industrial kitchen, the strangers who stayed at their house, and the guest who stole Jinger's diary. For all links mentioned in this episode, visit www.drwillcole.com/podcast.

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