If your business vision requires zero faith, you don't need God you just need a better spreadsheet. But if you want to build something that actually matters, you’ve got to make the vision plain. There is a massive, cultural lie that tells us our professional lives can be neatly compartmentalized away from our spiritual realities. We step into the boardroom on Monday and completely forget the God we worshiped on Sunday. But the gospel doesn't leave room for that kind of dualism. It claims authority over all of life including the marketplace.

On this episode of "Caution Wet Paint", we wrap up our 3-part conversation with Chris Turnley, Chief Operating Officer at CoastHills Credit Union.

Together, we dig our heels into the profound weight of Habakkuk 2:2-3.

Habakkuk is standing on the watchtower, looking out at a broken, chaotic world, and God says: "Write the vision and make it plain." Why? Because the vision anchors us when the cultural currents pull against us.

Chris brings incredible operational wisdom into this text as we unpack:

1) The Illusion of Ownership: Breaking free from debt slavery and finding true financial responsibility under the lordship of Christ.

2) The Anatomy of Work: Moving past empty careerism to discover a deeply rooted, God given purpose in our daily labor.

3) The Fruitful Executive: What it looks like when the fruits of the Spirit—patience, kindness, self control actually direct corporate decision making.

"This is the most important quarter in the history of the company.

"If you’ve spent more than five minutes in corporate sales, you’ve heard this rallying cry. But when the pressure is on, what’s the actual playbook? Do you just cross your fingers and hope to get lucky, or do you build a repeatable system that guarantees revenue?

In this final, jam packed episode of the “GUM ON SHOE” Podcast, we are sitting down with Michael Biedermann, author of the Amazon hit The Sales Valley: A Blueprint for Sales Leadership.

Instead of a standard interview, we are handing the mic over to you. We took your burning listener questions and put Michael in the hot seat to break down the exact strategies required to build, scale, and lead elite sales teams.

With Amazon reviewers calling it "clear, practical, and actionable," this book has quickly become the definitive guide for moving past corporate fluff and into execution. Whether you are an individual contributor looking to step up or an executive managing a massive pipeline, this episode delivers the solid advice you need to turn high stakes quarterly goals into an actionable, winnable plan.

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Every enterprise eventually suffers from the temptation of short-term thinking. When Q2 numbers lag due to macroeconomic factors, it’s easy for leadership teams to panic, pivot too quickly, and lose momentum. But what if the antidote to corporate panic isn't a new strategy, but strategic patience?

In Part 2 of The “Caution Wet Paint” Podcast, we sit down with Chris Turnley, Chief Operating Officer at CoastHills Credit Union. Together, we break down a timeless framework for leadership in the Old Testament, Habakkuk 2:2-3: “Write the vision and make it plain on tablets, that he may run who reads it. For the vision is yet for an appointed time”.

"Write the vision and make it plain..." Crafting extreme clarity so your team knows exactly where you are heading. "...that he may run who reads it." Empowering autonomous, fast-paced execution across your entire organization.

Trust the lag time Maintaining a steady pipeline focus and solid operational habits, even when the market experiences a lag.

Big corporate milestones don't happen overnight. As long as your direction is correct, you have to trust the relationship between your daily efforts and your eventual outcomes.

In part 4 of our “GUM ON SHOE” series with Michael Biedermann, author of The Sales Valley: A Blueprint for Sales Leadership, we get intensely practical about what really drives team performance: the way a sales leader manages internal relationships and support.

Michael unpacks how top leaders build a powerful internal brand using the resources already around them SEs, product, marketing, legal, and their own frontline reps. You’ll hear how to train your team to grow those relationships, and why small internal moves can be the difference between an 80% team and a 120% team. We also tackle “firefighting mode”: when should you step in, when are you actually rescuing, and how do you support your reps without making them dependent on you?

He then walks through what effective sales team meetings should look like: which meetings should be non‑negotiable, how to set the right rhythm and cadence, and how to keep team sessions high level while using one on ones to go deep on deals, skills, and coaching. If you want a team that runs with you not behind you this episode is built for you.

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Episode 3 with author Michael Biedermann on the “Gum On Shoe” Podcast. After only two weeks, The Sales Valley: A Blueprint for Sales Leadership has struck a nerve with sales leaders, founders, and GTM executives who are looking for honest, practical leadership training.

The book is already ranked #18 in Amazon’s Management Science category. Let’s help Mike push toward #1! In this episode, we dig into a question every sales leader should be asking: What if you had real confidence in where your team stood heading into the week.

That kind of confidence does not come from guessing, hoping, or firefighting. It comes from building a strong sales leadership foundation with repeatable, measurable pillars, from curiosity to focus, and from identity to execution.

"Gum On Shoe" is built for the world of sales, entrepreneurs, sales leaders, sales talent, and revenue executives. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone responsible for building, coaching, or leading a high-performing sales team.

Listen to Episode 3 with Mike Biedermann and then grab your copy, The Sales Valley, A Blueprint for Sales Leadership.

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What do you do when the vision is clear, but the timing is not? On this episode of "Caution Wet Paint", where we share good news through a Christian lens, we continue our series on taking biblical scripture and applying it to real business, leadership, and life.

This time, we are going back to the Old Testament with our guest, Chris Turnley, to unpack Habakkuk 2:2-3 and talk about vision, waiting, obedience, and what God does in the seasons where the promise has been written down, but it has not arrived yet.

Chris Turnley is one of those rare leaders who can talk about pipeline, profit, and people, and actually mean all three. He has led high performing teams, scaled businesses, and wrestled honestly with what it looks like to follow Jesus while carrying real world targets, hard decisions, and leadership pressure.

If you are building a business, leading a team, waiting on a breakthrough, or trying to stay faithful in a season that feels slower than you expected, this conversation is for you.

Because sometimes the delay is not wasted time. Sometimes it is where God builds the capacity to carry the vision.

Part 2 with Michael Biedermann is here. On this episode of the “Gum On Shoe” Podcast, we continue our conversation with Michael Biedermann, author of The Sales Valley: A Blueprint for Sales Leadership, now available on Amazon.

Michael is an award-winning Sales, GTM, VP, RVP, team builder, author, and advisor with three successful exits. He has lived the sales leadership journey from the inside, building teams, scaling revenue, and learning what actually works when the pressure is real.

One reader commented: “From my perspective, this book is a must read for sales leaders, founders, GTM leaders, or aspiring sales executives.” “The Sales Valley has clearly touched a nerve in the world of professional sales leadership.” “Salespeople get plenty of training, often reduced to certifications, courses, and LinkedIn badges. "Sales leaders, however, are often promoted into leadership and expected to figure it out on their own.”

Michael’s book offers something different: straightforward, brief, applicable, and effective training for the people responsible for building teams, improving performance, creating accurate forecasts, and leading through the chaos of revenue growth.

In this final episode with Jeff Kruszyna 🇺🇸 on the “Caution Wet Paint” Podcast, we bring our series on biblical principles and business application to a powerful close. “Caution Wet Paint” is about sharing good news through a Christian lens, and this series has centered on the Parable of the Talents as a lesson in stewardship over ownership. What we have is not ultimately possessed by us. It is entrusted to us by God.

That truth changes how we think about work, leadership, business, money, influence, and responsibility. The Parable of the Talents reminds us that God given gifts and resources are meant to be used faithfully. It warns against delayed obedience, exposes the danger of fear, and calls believers to worship the Giver rather than the gifts.

Jeff Kruszyna 🇺🇸 Kruszyna’s story brings that principle to life. He built a $100 million conservative fundraising powerhouse by taking God’s lead and turning it into a mission. His work is a reminder that business can be more than strategy, revenue, or growth. It can become a place of conviction, stewardship, and purpose.

This episode is about faithfulness, responsibility, courage, and what happens when we stop asking, “What do I own?” and start asking, “What has God entrusted to me?”