🎙️ 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗴𝗹𝗲. 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗔𝗜. 𝗣𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗱𝘃𝗶𝗰𝗲.

At LawFest 2026, we spoke with David Whiting the Principal of Whiting Lawyers — who’s spent 30+ years answering real legal questions from real people.Different era. Same core problem:People don’t just want answers… they want 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁.

💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

↳ The best lawyers are still found through personal referrals, not search results

↳ AI is powerful, but it often misreads nuance in legal questions

↳ The profession is becoming more complex and litigious over time

↳ Strong lawyers balance being generalists and specialists

↳ The future belongs to those who can adapt to change, not fight it

#PeopleInLegal #LawFest2026 #LegalProfession #LegalTech #AIinLaw #FutureOfLaw #Lawyers #LegalCareers #Networking

“𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲… 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗺𝗲 𝗾𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗼 𝘄𝗲 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁?”🎙️ On the ground at LawFest — a conversation between Andrew King and David Woolstencroft.What stood out?Not the noise.Not the hype.But the 𝗱𝗶𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴.🎥 In this chat, they unpack: ↳ 𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗡𝗲𝘄 𝗭𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗮 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗣𝗔𝗖 ↳ 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗵𝗶𝗯𝗶𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗟𝗮𝘄𝗙𝗲𝘀𝘁 ↳ 𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝘀𝗺𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗳𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁-𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝘁 ↳ 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗵𝘆, 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗸… 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿The shift is subtle, but powerful:From: tech vendors vs law firms 👉 To: partners building togetherThat’s where the real opportunity is.#LegalTech hashtag #LawFest hashtag #AIinLaw #APAC #LegalInnovation #ProductMarketFit #B2BSales #PeopleInLegal #FutureOfLaw

“𝗠𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗽𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁… 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱.”🎙️ In this People in Legal episode, David Woolstencroft sit down with James d'Apice, a commercial litigator specialising in shareholder and director disputes — unpacking what really causes business relationships to break down.And more importantly… how to prevent it.💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The best disputes are the ones you never have — 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗹𝘆 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 ↳ Most issues start as “𝘀𝗼𝗳𝘁 𝘀𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗮𝗹𝘀” long before they become legal problems ↳ Relationship dynamics matter just as much as contracts ↳ Strong negotiation strategies can 𝘀𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲, 𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗻𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽𝘀 ↳ Prevention isn’t just legal — 𝗶𝘁’𝘀 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝘄𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 + 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻In a world where businesses move fast…it’s often the small misalignments that create the biggest disputes.This conversation is a reminder: 👉 Legal strategy isn’t just about protection 👉 It’s about preserving relationships before they break🙌 Family Law Education Network Conference 2026!#LegalTech #BusinessLaw #DisputeResolution #CorporateLaw #Leadership #PeopleInLegal #LegalInsights #ConflictResolution #BusinessStrategy

Are you living someone else’s dream job? In this episode of the Law and Beyond show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with the legendary Cat "TechnoCat" Casey, a global voice in AI and legal innovation.

Cat shares her fascinating journey from studying existential philosophy to becoming a leading voice in AI forensics. We dive deep into the "sunk cost fallacy" that keeps many legal professionals trapped in roles that no longer serve them and discuss how to reclaim the steering wheel of your career.

Whether you are a lawyer, a technologist, or somewhere in between, Cat’s "fractional sparkle" will inspire you to find your own "catnip" in the expanding legal universe.

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In this episode, we discuss:

• The Translator Superpower: Why a mastery of language makes you an AI superstar.
• Iron Man Esquire: How to become a tech-enabled legal rockstar.
• The Sunk Cost Fallacy: Recognizing when it’s time to pivot.
• Shadow AI: Why "don't use it" is a dangerous firm policy.
• The Fearless Self-Evaluation: A 30-minute exercise to find your next career move.

Featured Guest:
Cat Casey, Chief Innovation Officer and Author of "AI and Legal Tech" (Wiley).

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Criminal law is a "very human business." For barrister Emma Moss, it is the space where she stands as the "thin line" between the power of the state and an individual’s liberty. But Emma’s path to the bar wasn't a straight line. It was a journey of pivots, from psychology and HR to returning to law school as a mature student and parent.

In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Emma to explore the expanding legal universe through the lens of criminal defence and legal aid. They dive deep into the emotional weight of the work, the resource imbalances in our justice system, and the vital importance of building a sustainable career through community and "give back."

Emma shares her "win or learn" philosophy, offering raw and practical advice for anyone navigating a non-traditional legal path or struggling to balance empathy with the risk of burnout.

In this episode, we discuss:

• The Non-Linear Path: Pivoting from early setbacks to a successful second career in law.
• The Reality of Legal Aid: Standing up for access to justice despite significant resource gaps.
• The Empathy Trap: How to "care just enough" to be effective without burning out.
• Resilience & Self-Care: Moving away from destructive coping mechanisms toward community-based support.
• Breaking Barriers: Why mentoring and "owning your space" are essential for the next generation of lawyers.
• The Tech Mismatch: Emma’s take on the "New Age of Sexism" in AI and why the law is struggling to catch up.

About Our Guest:
Emma Moss is a criminal defence barrister based in New Zealand. A passionate advocate for access to justice, she serves on community law boards and the Law Association’s Next Gen committee, dedicated to breaking down barriers for mature students and diverse practitioners entering the law.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating or review on Spotify! It helps others find People in Legal and the "Law and Beyond" show, and supports our mission to highlight the people shaping the future of the expanding legal universe.

What does a legal tech career look like when you're not a lawyer? In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Claudia Simpson, Senior Data Governance and Business Analyst at Law in Order, to explore how curiosity, saying yes to opportunities, and a people-first approach can build a powerful career in the expanding legal universe.

From litigation support clerk to leading data governance and privacy initiatives, Claudia's journey is a masterclass in non-linear career growth. But more importantly, she shares practical wisdom on navigating AI adoption, building ethical guardrails into innovation, and why governance isn't a hurdle—it's an enabler.

Perfect for aspiring legal tech professionals, law firm leaders, and anyone curious about the intersection of technology, ethics, and society.

Follow Law In Order on LinkedIn to stay connected with updates and insights exploring all things legal tech - from everyday workflows to responsible AI adoption across the industry.

In this Episode:

00:00 – Cold Open: "Ask 'Should We?' Not Just 'Can We?'"

00:20 – Welcome & Claudia's Career Journey

05:30 – What Does a Business Analyst Do?

09:30 – Sociology & People-First Approach to Tech

17:30 – AI, Ethics, and Guardrails

24:30 – Governance as an Enabler & AML Compliance

31:00 – The Isolation Card Question & Book Chat

34:30 – Closing & Ada Lovelace Reference

Books

• Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil - by V.E. Schwab
• The Way of Kings and Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson
• Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio

❓ 𝗗𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗜𝗧 𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗱𝗺𝗮𝗽… 𝗼𝗿 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗻𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗥𝗢𝗜?That question summed up a powerful People in Legal conversation filmed live at the iManage Conference in Melbourne (Nov 2025).Host David Woolstencroft spoke with the Harbor team — Scott Sonter, Scott Cooper, and Damian Jeal — about what law firm CIOs and CTOs are really dealing with right now.And it is not just “𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝘄𝗲 𝗯𝘂𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘅𝘁?”The Harbor team shared insights from working across risk, finance, document management and managed services, including:• 𝙬𝙝𝙮 𝙨𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙛𝙞𝙧𝙢𝙨 𝙢𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙙 𝙗𝙪𝙩 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙜𝙜𝙡𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙖𝙘𝙘𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙪𝙨𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙙𝙖𝙩𝙖 • 𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙨𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙨 𝙘𝙖𝙣 𝙖𝙘𝙘𝙞𝙙𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙞𝙡𝙤𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙧𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙜𝙮 • 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝘼𝙄 𝙞𝙨 𝙜𝙚𝙣𝙪𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙡𝙮 𝙝𝙚𝙡𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙛𝙞𝙧𝙢𝙨 𝙩𝙤𝙙𝙖𝙮 𝙫𝙨 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙮𝙥𝙚 • 𝙬𝙝𝙮 𝙍𝙊𝙄 𝙤𝙛𝙩𝙚𝙣 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙨 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙣𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨 𝙗𝙚𝙩𝙬𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙨𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙨, 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙫𝙮 𝙘𝙪𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙢𝙞𝙨𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 • 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙖𝙜𝙚𝙢𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙤𝙛𝙩𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙝𝙞𝙙𝙙𝙚𝙣 𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙤𝙣 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙨 𝙛𝙖𝙞𝙡What stood out most was Harbor’s 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗲-𝗼𝗳-𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘆𝗰𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗰𝗵 — advising on strategy, helping select the right solutions, implementing them, and then staying involved through managed services. That broader view means they are not just delivering projects, they are helping firms make better decisions before major budget is committed.For law firm tech leaders under pressure to modernise, secure data, support lawyers and still prove ROI, that kind of market-wide perspective is invaluable.Because the real question is not “Which tool should we buy next?”It is “Are we investing in the right things, in the right order, for the right outcomes?”Share your thoughts with us!hashtag#PeopleInLegal hashtag#LegalTech hashtag#LawFirmIT hashtag#CIO hashtag#CTO hashtag#iManage hashtag#DigitalTransformation hashtag#BusinessOfLaw

“If a law firm is running 100 matters with average disbursements of $5,000. that’s $500,000 locked up for two to three years.”In this episode of the People and Legal Podcast, host Chantal McNaught engages with Jo Cope, CEO of Providior, to discuss the intricacies of disbursement funding in the legal sector.

Jo shares her extensive experience in financial services and legal funding, emphasising the challenges law firms face in managing disbursements, particularly in personal injury cases that can take years to settle. She highlights how Providior supports law firms by providing the necessary capital to cover these costs, allowing them to focus on their clients and grow their practices without the burden of upfront expenses.

The conversation explores the evolution of disbursement funding since Providior's inception in 2013, the importance of collaboration among funders, and the impact of recent challenges such as the COVID-19 pandemic on the legal industry. Jo also discusses the role of technology and AI in improving operational efficiency and client service, as well as the significance of understanding business metrics for law firms.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Law and Beyond Show

01:32 Meet Jo Cope: CEO of Providior

03:27 Understanding Disbursement Funding

09:36 The Evolution of Disbursement Funding

13:03 Risk Management in Legal Funding

18:13 Leadership Challenges in the Legal Sector

23:26 Embracing Technology and AI in Legal Funding

27:52 Fun Segment: Jo's Food Weakness

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