Happy Canada Day & July 4th! In honor of the holidays, we are dropping one of our greatest hits from the past. Enjoy!

Kevin Kulp & Jeff Grubb have, between them, created entire cosmologies and entire timelines. Kulp is the award-winning creator of Timewatch and the investigative fantasy game, Swords of the Serpentine. Grubb, a legend in his own time, is the engineer of the Forgotten Realms, creator of Spelljammer, and writer of Manual of the Planes. Hear the pair discuss the secrets of creating new worlds with Ben Riggs.

First up, we have fellow D&D historian Michael Calleia. For years, Dave Arneson & Gary Gygax hinted that they could not speak freely about the creation of D&D for legal reasons. Michael followed up this hints, searching archives and court documents all across the United States until he found a gem in Chicago. The July 1973 draft of Dungeons & Dragons. He is a master researcher and has been kind enough to share some of his gems with me. Michael, welcome to the show!

Next up, we have game designer Amabel Holland. Her linkedin describes her as I design weird angry board games for a living and am extremely trash online . She is also arguably the game designer with the greatest clippings in America since The New Yorker did a 4,000 word profile of her and her work three years ago. She works at Holland Spiele where her title is, and I quote, GAMES WEIRDO.

Her linkedin reads, "I design weird angry board games for a living and am extremely trash online." She is also the second former librarian turned game designer from Michigan I have had on in the past two weeks.

She is here because Michael was quite taken by one of her more recent games...

Check out Michael's deep dive into the National Archives here: https://chanceand.com/2024/02/27/a-journey-through-the-july-1973-draft-and-dds-foundational-saga/

Pick up Amabel's numerous amazing games at Holland Spiele: https://hollandspiele.com/

Michael was hanging out here when we recorded: http://www.nycwargames.com/

In which Producer Chris continues to mess with all our minds by leaving at least one obvious error in the show!

Today, I have two masters of their craft, two gaming greats whose work is capable of standing on its own two feet and maybe even punching other games in the face, or gutting them like fish, or blasting them out the airlock depending on your genre.

First up is Luke Gearing. He is one of the Mothership boys over at Tuesday Knight Games, and is known for Gradient Descent, Fever Swamp, and most relevant to my mind, WOLVES UPON THE COAST, which I am currently running. Welcome Luke!

Second in order but by no means in significance we have Kevin Crawford, the man with the mind behind the WITHOUT NUMBER line of games. STARS WITHOUT NUMBER is the dream campaign which I seem eternally unable to get my gaming group to play. His successful crowdfunding campaigns outnumber my ex-girlfriends, and his influence on game design in the 21st century has been remarkable. He is also tremendously hard to lure into an interview, so I will publicly brag that this is the second time I've managed to seduce him into a conversation. Welcome Kevin!

Support Kevin Crawford's current Kickstarter here!

You can find a free adventure by Luke Gearing for VIOLENCE here!