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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more.

If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out.

And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus.

Connect with Jared!

@jaredkaner / @thearenamusic

👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:

⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.