Sam Quinones joins us to talk about his newest book, The Perfect Tuba — a deeply reported journey into the surprising, passionate world of American tubists. Best known for his unflinching coverage of the opioid crisis, Quinones turns here toward something altogether different: a story of joy, community, and the unlikely power of the instrument that sits at the back of the band.

We dig into the characters and communities that make the tuba world tick — from obsessive instrument makers chasing a mythical York & Sons horn, to the legendary Big Bill Bell, to Arnold Jacobs, the Chicago Symphony's tuba guru whose teachings on breathing and music verge on the philosophical. And we spend time in Roma, Texas, where a visionary marching band director built a program that wins state championships and sends kids to college.

Sam Quinones is an American journalist and author whose previous book, Dreamland, is widely regarded as one of the defining accounts of the American opioid epidemic. With The Perfect Tuba, he brings the same on-the-ground reporting instincts to a subject that is, on the surface, nothing like addiction — and finds that the two stories share more than you'd expect.

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