In a fun first for the show, Sarah Bowen takes the host chair to interview Jon Merwarth of Thrive Point Consulting — and Jacob just sits back and listens.

Jon spent seven years leading a pregnancy center in Pennsylvania's Lehigh Valley, growing its budget from $450K to $1.7 million before launching Thrive Point to help centers nationwide. Drawing on a corporate sales background, a dozen years as an entrepreneur, and his own abortion experience as a teenager, he brings a rare blend of business rigor and ministry heart to the conversation.

Together, Sarah and Jon dig into:

• How the Dobbs decision created new pressure on centers in blue states — and how Jon's center beat back local ordinances aimed at shutting them down
• Why the Pennsylvania Pregnancy Wellness Collaborative gave centers a unified voice with policymakers
• Maternal health deserts and the "county maternal health intelligence brief" — using real data on transportation, Medicaid, and OB access to bridge the gaps
• The business pitfalls that quietly sink centers: weak culture, no succession plan, financial blind spots, and fear of risk
• Why "raise more money" is usually the wrong answer — and what to fix first
• A string of jaw-dropping stories of provision behind their maternity home (you'll want to hear the $250,000 knock on the door)

Practical, candid, and faith-filled — with a few laughs about rural internet along the way.

Learn more about Jon's work at thrivepointconsulting.org.

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