What does it take to build a paranormal convention from scratch in a haunted Old West gold mining town, when you've never even attended one before? That's exactly what Tiffany Fox, co-founder of Haunted AF and Are You Afraid of the Dark? Paranormal Events, decided to do when she and her team set their sights on Cripple Creek, Colorado. Gary and John sit down with Tiffany to pull back the curtain on what goes into producing a full-scale paracon: finding the venue, locking in speakers like Amy Bruni, Adam Berry, and Dustin Pari, and creating overnight ghost investigations at a 150-year-old jail in a town that practically sounds haunted.

But the conversation goes much deeper than logistics. Tiffany, a Christian investigator who balances her faith with a genuine hunger for the unknown, opens up about her first paranormal experience: a spirit voice at Vermont's Wilson Castle that told her group exactly which room to visit and how that single moment turned her into a full-blown ghost hunter. The crew digs into the gear she swears by, the role group energy plays in generating activity, and whether most "demon" encounters are really just misidentified earthbound grumps. Spoiler: John has strong opinions.

Let’s dive into the conversation.