This week Ken welcomes actor, musican Michael Des Barres to the show.

In addition to discussing Michael's new record Kiss or Kill (available via Rum Bar Records over at Bandcamp https://rumbarrecords.bandcamp.com/album/kiss-or-kill-me) Ken and Michael discuss how you tell people you're doing in 2026, Elvis, interpretting art, being a child actor, Lonnie Donnegan, Warhol, Iggy Pop, working hard, Silverhead, Z Cars, Alf, being a juvenille deliquint on screen, To Sir with Love, going to UK Private School, I Monster, Christopher Lee, Ghoulies, how acting is just a job, the power of stripped down guitar bass and drums, when Elvis joined the Army, The '68 Comeback Special, theories on why there are no stars anymore, Duran Duran, The Power Station, Live Aid, replacing Robert Palmer, Obsession, the mystery of WWF's Saturday Night's Main Event, performing for a billion and a half people at once with only two days of rehersal, where Michael's live long friendship with Don Johnson started, punk, delivering, being the villain, McGuyver, dressing in all black, getting recognized in public, Pamela Des Barres, knowing your lines, enjoying yourself, telling the truth, being yourself, Sidney Poitier, Sean Connery, Monty Python, and why you always keep the clothes.