Carrie Fabris is a leadership coach, speaker, and the founder of CareerFrame, a leadership development and executive coaching firm that partners with high-performance organizations to help leaders and teams thrive without burnout. She’s also the author of ALL IN: A Working Mom’s Unapologetic Quest for a Juicy Life and the creator of the Return on Energy (ROE) framework.
In this episode, we’re flipping the script on productivity. We talk about why time management alone isn’t enough—and why energy is the real asset we need to be paying attention to. Carrie breaks down the concept of Return on Energy, a practical way to evaluate where your energy is going, what it’s costing you, and whether it’s actually giving anything back.
We dive into awareness as the first step, how to spot energy leaks (hello, doom scrolling and endless meetings), and why leadership isn’t a title—it’s influence. We also talk about burnout, decision fatigue, boundaries, and small shifts that can dramatically change how you feel in your day-to-day life.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:05 Return on energy
00:07:03 The VIBE framework
00:10:31 How to see energy
00:13:26 Leaking energy and how to stop it
00:18:59 How energy affects leadership
00:20:41 Ways to track your energy
00:23:43 Carrie’s background
00:29:40 Company culture energy drain
00:32:28 All In - the book
00:35:24 How to cope with burnout
00:41:17 Boundaries and non-negotiables
00:45:44 Your values vs your energy
00:48:54 The wheel of life exercise
00:54:50 How to get unstuck from being just “fine”
01:01:24 Final thoughts and outro
If you’re feeling stretched thin, this episode dives deep into return on energy, energy management, and how to avoid burnout without sacrificing performance. Learn how to shift from traditional time management to smarter energy optimization, conduct a practical energy audit, and identify hidden energy leaks draining your focus and motivation.
You’ll discover how to set powerful boundaries and non-negotiables, prevent burnout, and build high performance habits that support long-term success. Using the VIBE framework (verify the feeling, impact, balance the cost, execute or eliminate), you’ll learn how to make clearer choices, track your energy effectively, and create a version of “going all in” that aligns with your values. If you want sustainable productivity, stronger work-life balance, and practical burnout recovery strategies, this conversation gives you actionable tools to increase performance without running on empty. So, tune in!
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Website https://www.carriefabris.com/
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