China is shaping the world.In direct ways, like innovation, foreign policy, investment.And indirectly, by provoking a response from countries such as the US who see it as a competitor.China's transformation into one of the world's superpowers is the most remarkable transformation of a single country in the history of the world.And yet it's still poorly understood (including by me).Selina Xu is a writer, researcher and AI & China policy lead in the office of former Google CEO, Eric Schmidt and is here to shed light on China and its technology industry, dispelling some myths along the way.Where else you can listen:

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Chapters

00:00 The Evolution of China's Tech Industry

03:38 Debunking the Copycat Narrative

06:16 The Role of the State in Innovation

09:51 Xi Jinping's Vision for Technology

12:44 The Return of Jack Ma

15:35 China's Perspective on Global Competition

19:28 Defining Winning in the Superpower Race

22:40 China's Unique Approach to Technology Deployment

26:50 The Role of the State in AI Development

30:03 DeepSeek and the Evolution of Chinese AI

34:19 Agentic AI: Trends and Trajectories

36:57 Emerging Frontiers in AI Research

40:12 Infrastructure and Support for Tech Industries

43:44 Geopolitical Implications of Taiwan and Semiconductors

46:03 Cultural Perspectives on China and Tech

48:53 Optimistic Visions for the Future of AILinks:

Selina's website

China's AI+ initiative

Involution

Suspension of ANT's IPO

Common prosperity

Deepseek moment

Chin AI substack - Jeffrey Ding

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