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AI isn’t a distant headline for tech people, it’s already sitting in your pocket, your practice software, and your clients’ daily lives. We talk with Dr. Seneka Gainer, counselor educator, researcher, author, and clinical director, about how counselors can build real AI literacy and integrate technology ethically without losing empathy or turning therapy into an assembly line. If you’ve been wondering what “AI” even means beyond ChatGPT, this conversation brings it back to basics in plain language and practical counselor terms.

We also go deep on the messy, human path that turns students into clinicians. Dr. Gainer shares how she moved from law school into counseling, what it felt like to do personal work in grad training, and why early supervision can expose a hidden problem for a lot of us: trying to control the session instead of building rapport and listening. We connect those training lessons to the way clinicians approach new tools, especially when stress, burnout, and compassion fatigue are already in the background.

Then we get concrete. We discuss ethical decision-making, competence, and how our current professional ethics already point us toward what to do next: learn what the tools are, understand the risks, and create clear boundaries. Gainer explains what readers gain from The Counseling Singularity: Empathy & Artificial Intelligence in the Art of Healing, including examples for informed consent, syllabus language, and how to talk with clients about their own AI use.

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