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The Ethically Immoral Podcast

The Ethically Immoral Podcast

著者: Hosted by: Mike Payne
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The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.


It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others are funny, but all of them are authentic. If you’re someone who values storytelling, vulnerability, and good conversation, this space was created and cultivated for you.

© 2026 The Ethically Immoral Podcast
アート エンターテインメント・舞台芸術 文学史・文学批評 社会科学
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  • Volume Seven: Chapter Seven - Our Conversation with Jennifer LoveGrove
    2026/06/01

    In Volume Seven: Chapter Seven of the podcast, we welcome Dunnville, Ontario-born and Toronto-based Writer, Author, and Poet Jennifer LoveGrove. Jennifer is the author of four full-length poetry collections and the novel Watch How We Walk, which was long-listed for the Giller Prize. Her poetry collection Beautiful Children with Pet Foxes was long-listed for the Raymond Souster Award, and her newest collection, The Tinder Sonnets, is available now via Bookhug Press.

    In our conversation, we discuss Jennifer's creative history—from childhood creativity and growing up with a typewriter and lamp-chair writing setup, to the lasting influence of religion and the sense of outsiderhood that shaped both her worldview and artistic voice. We discuss her movement between fiction and poetry, whether those creative instincts originate from the same creative space, and the realities of maintaining a writing practice beyond romantic ideas of inspiration.

    Jennifer speaks candidly about discipline, resistance, self-doubt, and the emotional terrain of writing—why first drafts can feel exhausting, what revision gives back, and whether satisfaction comes from the act of writing itself or from seeing something new brought into existence.

    We also spend time discussing The Tinder Sonnets—a collection based on Jennifer’s experiences navigating dating apps and modern relationships in middle age. Our conversation touches on vulnerability, confession, female desire, misogyny in contemporary dating culture, and the expectations society places on women as they age. Jennifer reflects on writing openly about intimacy and emotional complexity, what it means to transform personal experience into poetry, and whether the collection brought clarity, confrontation, or simply another way of living alongside difficult truths

    Contact Jennifer:
    Purchase The Tinder Sonnets:
    bookhugpress.ca Instagram: @jenlg52

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Prentice Powell – True Love
    Instagram: @prenticepowell1906 Website: prenticepowell.com

    Asia Samson – Enough
    Instagram: @theasiaproject Website: theasiaproject.com

    Alysia Harris – Death Poem
    Instagram: @poppyinthewheat Website: alysiaharris.com

    Kyla Janee Lacey – I Pulled Out A Knife On Him
    Instagram: @kylajlacey Website: thatswritekyla.com

    Emi Mahmoud – Window Games
    Instagram: @emibatuta Website: emi-mahmoud.com

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    2 時間 6 分
  • Volume Seven: Chapter Six - Our Conversation With Steven Seidenberg
    2026/05/25

    In Volume Seven: Chapter Six of The Program, we welcomed Boston-based Photographer, Poet, Writer, Philosopher, and Visual Artist, Steven Seidenberg.

    We discuss Steven’s newest poetry collection, Coda, his ongoing photographic work, including his exhibition at the John and Geraldine Lilley Museum of Art and the forthcoming photographic project Kanazawa Vacancy. In our conversation, Steven reflects on what it means to see his work displayed publicly and discusses his fascination with photographing empty landscapes, abandoned structures, and unstable environments—images that ask viewers not simply to look, but to reconsider what they’ve been seeing all along.

    We discuss Steven’s early creative and intellectual history. He talks about his youthful attraction to poetry and philosophy, describing a compulsive literary obsession that shaped his identity and ultimately led him to leave high school before finding his academic footing at Simon’s Rock and later Bard College. We discuss the influence of reading on writing, the role philosophical literature played in his development, and how his interest in photography emerged alongside his early writing life, including memories of developing black-and-white photographs in his uncle’s darkroom.

    Our conversation also explores family influences, Steven’s path through philosophy and academia, and his eventual transition away from teaching and copy editing toward a full-time creative life. Along the way, we unpack his remarkably patient artistic process, with projects often taking a decade or more to complete.

    This was a thoughtful and reflective conversation about observation, artistic patience, intellectual curiosity, and the lifelong pursuit of meaning through multiple creative forms.

    Contact Steven:
    Website:
    stevenseidenberg.com Instagram: @steven.seidenberg

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Brittany Barker – The Classroom Before the Revolution
    Instagram: @iambrittanybarker

    Joshua Bennett – 16 Bars For Kendrick Lamar
    Instagram: @sirjoshuabennett Website: drjoshuabennett.com

    Gina Loring – Freedom To Learn
    Instagram: @ginastarlight Website: ginaloring.com

    Steven Willis – Instead Of A Suicide Note, I Wrote This
    Instagram: @stevenwillispoetry Website: stevenwillispoetry.com

    Alexis Green – He Used To Send Me Flowers
    Instagram: @poetalexisgreen Website: poetalexsisgreen.com

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    2 時間 8 分
  • Volume Seven: Chapter Five - Our Conversation with Brenda Cardanes
    2026/05/11

    In Volume Seven: Chapter Five, Brenda Cárdenas joins the Program for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, language, culture, visual art, and the experiences that shaped her voice as a writer and poet. A Milwaukee, Wisconsin born and based educator, essayist, and author, Brenda earned her undergraduate degree from the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee, her teaching certification from the University of Wisconsin Oshkosh, and her MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Michigan. She is the author of the award-winning poetry collection Trace, which received the 2024 Society of Midland Authors Poetry Award and was the Silver Award winner of the 2023 Foreword INDIES Poetry Awards. She is also the author of three chapbooks, served as Milwaukee Poet Laureate from 2010–2012, and in 2025 was named Wisconsin Poet Laureate.

    Throughout the conversation, Brenda reflects on growing up surrounded by creativity in many forms—from family members who painted, crafted furniture, made saddles, and told stories—to discovering poetry as the medium that allowed her to fully explore culture, memory, and identity. We discuss her early love of visual art, arts and crafts with her aunt, and the impact storytelling had on her imagination as a child. Brenda also talks about beginning to write stories around the age of eight, being encouraged by teachers early on, and eventually discovering poetry in high school through an American Authors course.

    Our conversation explores the importance of representation in literature and how discovering Latin poetry and bilingual writing during undergrad changed her understanding of what poetry could do. Brenda speaks candidly about how encountering poets who reflected her own culture and experiences gave her permission to more openly write about identity, language, and heritage.

    The conversation also touches on what it is like sharing life with fellow poet and former Milwaukee Poet Laureate Roberto Harrison, the ways visual art continues to influence her writing process, and what it meant to receive the call informing her that she had been selected as Wisconsin’s Poet Laureate in 2025.

    Contact Brenda:
    Website:
    brendacardenas.net Instagram: @brenda.cardenas.754

    Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:

    Ephraim Nehemiah – Inheritance of a Broken Home
    Instagram: @ephariamnehemiah

    Khalil Saadiq – Somebody's Watching Me
    Instagram: @khalil_saadiq

    Alexandria Bennett – Color Blind
    Instagram: @caffeinatedliving

    Denice Frohman – Accents
    Instagram: @denicefrohman Website: denicefrohman.com

    Lionheart – Pretty Hurts
    Instagram: @lionheartfelt Website: lionheartfeltonline.com

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    2 時間 12 分
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