(0:00) Open

(2:01) Masters of the Shell Game

(6:25) Don’t Buy What You Don’t Want

(15:01) Then Comes The Math Gymnastics

(25:00) Don’t Go In; Stay Home

(29:40) The Box

(32:32) But Wait, There’s More!

(37:35) The CARS Rule

(40:27) cj’s recommendation: Round 1 of the NHL Playoffs

(42:20) Jeff’s Recommendation: Ford v Ferrari

This episode the guys tackle the infamous "Four-Square" philosophy - the car dealership’s favorite way to rip you off.

Jeff is convinced that car dealers are just misunderstood philanthropists trying to do right in the world.

From VIN etchings that cost more than a flat-screen TV to "pulsing" brake lights you never asked for, they’re exposing the junk fees making dealerships the ultimate escape rooms - except there you have to pay to get out.

cj is convinced dealers are grifty-grifters that have mastered the shell game.

Then there’s the "Finance Box," where math goes to die and interest rates are inflated faster than a bouncy castle. Learn why you should never negotiate by monthly payment unless you enjoy being "underwater" before you hit the first stoplight.

Is it a car dealership or a magic show?

This episode is arming you with the "maths" the dealers hope you forgot after high school. From decoding the "Money Factor" in leases to spotting "Payment Packing" maneuvers, it is a survival guide for the modern car lot. Before you sign that 84-month loan that lasts longer than most marriages, listen to this breakdown on how to negotiate the math, skip the "Platinum Menu," and walk away with your dignity (and your wallet) intact.

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