Hatch sits down with wrestling legend Lee Kemp to unpack his journey from adopted kid and benched basketball player to three-time NCAA champion and three-time World Champion. Lee tells how he discovered wrestling almost by accident, became obsessed with Dan Gable at a 1972 camp, and then shocked the sport by beating Gable at 18 years old.

He shares stories of turning Wisconsin into a national powerhouse, surviving brutal World Team Trials, winning his first World title, and the lifelong impact of the 1980 Olympic boycott on his identity and purpose. This is a raw, honest look at obsession, mental toughness, and the cost of chasing greatness.

If you care about wrestling, mindset, or what it really takes to chase greatness, this episode is a masterclass.

0:00:00 – Opening stories, Full Tilt intro, and why Lee Kemp is a wrestling legend

0:08:00 – Adoption, move from Cleveland to rural Chardon, outsider experiences, and accidentally finding wrestling after riding the bench in basketball

0:20:00 – The 1972 Dan Gable camp: obsession with Gable, copying his training, and deciding to go “all in” on wrestling

0:32:00 – High school breakthrough: upsetting the defending state champ, building belief, and the win that changed his career trajectory

0:45:00 – College years: almost going to Michigan State, choosing Wisconsin, and helping turn the Badgers into a national contender with multiple NCAA champs

0:58:00 – From NCAA star to World Team contender: the OW “snub,” getting talked into the World Team Trials, and battling Joe Carr and Dave Schultz in the mini-tournament

1:10:00 – Making the 1978 World Team: nine matches in four days at altitude, brutal Gable-led training camps, and the lead-up to Mexico City Worlds

1:20:00 – Winning his first World title, international rivalries, and how a deeper sense of purpose drove Lee beyond medals and records

1:30:00 – The 1980 Olympic boycott: feeling like a death in the family, losing the chance to become Olympic champion, and learning to live with a “stolen” dream as a three-time World Champion

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Four-time All-American and two-time NCAA champion Mark Ironside sits down with longtime friend and former roommate Mike Hatcher to go deep on legendary Cedar Rapids rivalries, wild college house stories, brutal Iowa wrestling room battles, and what it was really like under Dan Gable and Tom and Terry Brands. From packed Prairie–Jefferson duals to Olympic memories in Atlanta, this episode is a masterclass in toughness, loyalty, and the evolution of Hawkeye wrestling culture.

Timed Highlights
0:03:30 – Growing up minutes apart in Cedar Rapids but on opposite sides of the rivalry line
0:06:00 – Prairie vs Jefferson: sold-out gyms, fire marshals, and presold duel tickets
0:09:40 – Respect between rivals and training together before the state tournament
0:11:00 – The tiny, overheated Prairie wrestling room and Ironside’s first rope climbs at Iowa
0:16:50 – Academic roadblocks, floods, and almost walking away from college wrestling
0:22:20 – Legendary house chaos: tree climbs, couch on the roof, and police visits
0:27:00 – Being the sober guy in a party house and getting hit with disorderly house tickets
0:31:00 – Wrestling Gable after practice and the “drowning on bottom” feeling
0:35:30 – The neck brace story: the one time Ironside cracks Gable and pays for it
0:37:45 – Tom Brands’ 42-minute lifting circuits: the hardest workouts of Ironside’s life
0:45:15 – Mental toughness: training the mind to outlast the final 30 seconds of a match
0:49:50 – How getting dismantled by Tom and Terry led Ironside to self-teach the low single
0:54:00 – Jeff McGinnis, nerves, and the match that almost broke Ironside in high school
0:58:40 – Why you can’t put Iowa-style wrestling in a box as a coach
1:01:50 – Lincoln McIlravy as “the inventor” and techniques nobody else could copy
1:05:10 – The self-directed Gable room: “first one to get tired gets a drink”
1:09:20 – Gable’s philosophy: why he didn’t micromanage practices
1:16:50 – Driving to the 95 Worlds and 96 Olympics
1:22:30 – Watching Tom Brands win Olympic gold in Atlanta from the front row
1:24:36 – College rivals: Steve Schmidt, St. John, and learning from heartbreaking losses
1:35:25 – Why “nice” doesn’t win matches
1:38:15 – Tom Brands, Doug Schwab, and punching holes in office walls after a Penn State loss
1:43:55 – Remembering teammates and friends, and what the Hawkeye brotherhood means now

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Former CBU All-American and alum Nolan Kessler joins the Full Tilt Podcast to break down the decision by California Baptist University to cut its Division I wrestling program along with two other men’s sports. Nolan explains why this is more than just one team being dropped: it’s part of a national trend threatening Olympic sports and first-generation college opportunities.

He shares powerful stories of lives changed through wrestling, the fast-growing movement behind Keep CBU Wrestling, and how alumni, coaches, and community members are rallying to raise $20 million and secure a long-term endowment for the program. Nolan also addresses Title IX, the financial realities behind “revenue sports,” and why CBU has a unique chance to lead instead of follow the herd.

Timed Highlights:
0:00 The bigger problem: Olympic sports under attack
0:25 Introducing the Full Tilt Podcast and guest Nolan Kessler
1:02 How Nolan learned CBU was cutting three men’s programs
1:34 Building a 100-alumni coalition to keep CBU wrestling
3:30 The national trend of dropped wrestling programs (Fresno State, Stanford, others)
5:10 NIL, NCAA changes, and 44 discontinued Olympic programs in one year
6:40 Why “revenue sports” like football and basketball are putting schools in the red
8:30 CBU’s chance to lead instead of follow the herd
9:49 The crisis of only three Division I wrestling programs in all of California
11:44 What’s the plan? Awareness, fundraising, and building a coalition
11:48 Launching keepcbu.com and raising over $1 million in a month
13:48 How pledges work and why donors are protected if the effort fails
13:59 Inside CBU’s response: “The decision is final, no amount of money will change it”
16:13 Title IX as the stated reason and why the numbers don’t add up
18:40 Other paths to Title IX compliance and adding women’s sports
20:00 Timeline: pushing for talks before the NCAA wrestling tournament
20:17 The $20 million endowment goal and lessons from Stanford
21:35 Ensuring the program’s long-term future, not just a short-term save
22:03 Examples from Bucknell and Binghamton and big gifts after programs were saved
24:38 Other programs cut at CBU and building a united front with golf and swim & dive
26:51 Final call to action: why wrestling is a lifeline of opportunity
27:16 How to support: website, social media, donations, and sharing
29:05 Closing: why this fight matters for wrestling and all Olympic sports

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NCAA champion and former Army officer Derek Moore joins the Full Tilt Podcast to walk through his unlikely rise from undersized, lightly recruited California kid to 2007 NCAA Champion and OW at 141 lbs, his time in the Army World Class Athlete Program (WCAP), and his current role building a faith-centered Division I program at CBU.
In this episode, Derek and Hatch dig into:
Growing up in small-town Redding, California and discovering wrestling
Walking on at UC Davis, grinding through redshirt years, and almost quitting
The influence of legendary coach Lenny Zaleski and the old-school UC Davis grind
Winning the 2007 NCAA title over Ryan Lang with a top-game clinic and earning OW
Transitioning to freestyle in the Army’s WCAP, training at the OTC, and wrestling overseas
Leading soldiers as a field artillery officer vs. leading a college wrestling team
Building the California Baptist (CBU) wrestling program and the role of faith in his life and coaching
If you love wrestling, leadership, and redemption stories grounded in faith and hard work, this episode is for you.

Timed Episode Highlights
0:00 – 3:42 Small-town roots, Northern California life, and first impressions of Riverside
3:42 – 7:43 Discovering CBU, NorCal vs SoCal, and faith and community in Riverside
7:43 – 12:56 Undersized high schooler, almost no recruiting, and landing at UC Davis
12:56 – 17:02 ROTC scholarship, balancing Division I wrestling and military training
17:02 – 23:02 Redshirt grind, getting beat up, almost quitting, and mentors who kept him in
23:02 – 30:00 Style and mindset shift: from tiny 88-pounder to big 141 with a lethal top game
30:00 – 36:41 Technical deep dive: counter offense, shin whizzer, Jonesy tilts, and mat wrestling
36:41 – 40:15 2007 NCAA run, teching Ryan Lang, and winning Outstanding Wrestler
40:15 – 44:39 UC Davis love, parade, and then the heartbreak of the program being dropped
44:39 – 52:32 ROTC commitment, joining the Army’s World Class Athlete Program (WCAP)
52:32 – 59:13 Training at the OTC under Terry Brands, Zeke Jones, Brandon Slay, and Bill Zadick
59:13 – 1:05:22 Overseas tours, brutal foreign training camps, and learning international styles
1:05:22 – 1:11:20 Transition from athlete to coach: Sacred Heart to CBU and the D2-to-D1 climb
1:11:20 – 1:20:00 Building CBU Wrestling, recruiting, faith impact on athletes, and California wrestling
1:20:00 – 1:24:42 Comparing military leadership to coaching a college team
1:24:42 – 1:25:57 Hardest Lenny Zaleski workouts and old-school UC Davis conditioning
1:25:57 – End Reflections, biggest rewards as a coach, and closing thoughts

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On this episode of The Full Tilt, Hatch sits down with two-time NCAA champion and Olympic gold medalist Randy Lewis for a storytelling masterclass. From his first day on the mat in fifth grade to setting a national record with 45 straight pins, Randy breaks down the mindset that made him, as he says, the toughest kid on the block.

He shares how a pull-up contest gave him the confidence to win his first state title, why he set insane goals like pinning every opponent for an entire season, and what it was really like being recruited by his hero, Dan Gable. Randy also tells the hilarious and humbling story of going from pinning a Russian world champion to getting absolutely worked in practice by Gable himself.

If you love wrestling, old-school toughness, and legendary stories, this is Full Tilt at its finest.

Timed Highlights:
0:00 Opening story: “Don’t poke the bear”
0:22 Welcome to The Full Tilt podcast with Hatch
0:43 Introducing Olympic gold medalist Randy Lewis
1:49 Randy’s first day of wrestling in fifth grade
2:05 Winning regionals and the belief that he could be state champ
2:22 The pull-up challenge that gave him confidence
2:40 Toughest kid on the block mindset and book title origin
3:08 Learning the rules the hard way: penalties for locking hands and choking
3:40 Winning his first state title and going to camp to really learn wrestling
4:20 Dominating AAU nationals and setting bigger goals
5:00 The goal to beat everyone by eight points or more
5:11 Facing Phil Hammond, cutting to 98, and wrestling fear
5:49 New goal: pinning everyone and setting a national record with 45 straight pins
6:28 College coaches come calling and Dan Gable enters the picture
6:57 Showing Gable the shoes he signed back in eighth grade
7:21 Hearing about Dan Gable’s Olympic run with no points scored on him
7:52 Randy’s young belief he could beat Gable “if I was as big as him”
8:12 Moving up to 149.5 and pinning the Russian world champion
8:54 The day he wrestled Gable in practice
9:01 Catching Gable in a headlock and then getting turned over and over again

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