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In this conversation, Ryan Franklin sits down with Dr. Wayne Chappelle, co-author of the new book Heal Your Hurting Mind, written with Craig Groeschel. Together they explore a reality many pastors and leaders face: carrying the weight of leadership while privately struggling with anxiety, burnout, or emotional exhaustion. Drawing from both biblical insight and psychological research, Dr. Chappelle discusses why mental and emotional struggles are more common among leaders than many realize, the myths that keep Christians silent about mental health, and the practical steps leaders can take to move toward healing and resilience. This episode offers honest conversation, biblical perspective, and hopeful guidance for anyone who is leading others while trying to care for their own soul.

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