In this episode of the Human Side of Cybersecurity, Dan Desko, Founder & CEO of Echelon Risk + Cyber, speaks with Dr. Trebor Evans, SVP and CISO at Dollar Bank, about leadership, pressure, and maintaining perspective in one of the most demanding roles in the industry. Leading security at a 170-year-old financial institution, Trebor shares how experience, judgment, and self-awareness shape effective decision-making over time. The discussion moves beyond tools and frameworks into how leaders manage urgency, assess real impact, and show up calmly when others are under stress. Trebor reflects risk, anxiety, mentorship, and why not every issue deserves a full-scale reaction. For current and aspiring security leaders, this conversation offers a grounded look at what it takes to sustain leadership and credibility over the long run. Leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts!

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