In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Abby Schwarz to explore how a nontraditional career path, life experience, and a people-first mindset can shape a successful and fulfilling legal career.

Abby shares her journey into law as a third career, following years in human resources, marketing, and leadership roles at a major tech platform. Entering law school later in life, she brought with her a depth of real-world experience that continues to influence how she practices today — with a strong focus on client relationships, communication, and practical problem-solving.

Initially drawn to employment law, Abby quickly realized that her strengths and interests aligned more closely with trust and estate work. She discusses how the practice is far more nuanced and creative than many assume, requiring thoughtful planning, strong interpersonal skills, and the ability to navigate complex family dynamics. Rather than simply drafting documents, her role often involves guiding clients through important life decisions with clarity and confidence.

Abby also reflects on what growth looks like from her perspective — not just big wins, but the daily moments where she helps clients feel supported, understood, and taken care of. She emphasizes how life experience, emotional intelligence, and a sense of humor can be just as valuable as legal knowledge in building trust with clients.

Looking ahead, Abby shares her perspective on the future of law firms, highlighting the importance of work-life balance, sustainable career paths, and maintaining the human element in legal services. While technology continues to evolve, she explains why areas like estate planning will always require a personal, relationship-driven approach.

Listeners will learn:

• How nontraditional career paths can strengthen legal practice

• Why life experience is a powerful asset in client-facing work

• What makes trust and estate law more creative than people expect

• How small, daily wins define long-term success as an attorney

• Why emotional intelligence is critical in legal practice

• How to build trust and connection with clients

• What the future of law firms looks like beyond just technology

👉 Tune in for a refreshing and relatable conversation about career pivots, personal growth, and building a legal career that aligns with both skill and lifestyle.

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Sean Dennin to explore how innovation, mission-driven thinking, and business model disruption are reshaping access to legal services.

Sean shares his unique path into the legal industry as a non-attorney, bringing years of experience in e-discovery, large-scale litigation support, and legal operations. From working on high-profile cases to building and scaling legal-adjacent businesses, his career has been centered around understanding how the legal system works — and where it falls short.

That perspective ultimately led him to help build a new kind of legal model focused on solving a major gap in the market: individuals facing serious habitability issues, like toxic mold, who often lack the financial resources or legal pathways to take action. Sean explains how traditional legal routes frequently fail these individuals, leaving them stuck between expensive retainers and difficult-to-prove claims.

By rethinking the model and implementing a contingency-based approach, Sean and his team created a system that meets people where they are — offering access to legal help that many previously didn’t have. The result has been rapid growth, strong demand, and real-world impact, with hundreds of cases and meaningful outcomes for clients in a short period of time.

Beyond innovation in services, Sean also dives into what he believes is the next evolution of law firms: not just technology, but culture and structure. From remote-first operations and global teams to profit-sharing philosophies and mandatory mental health days, he outlines a model designed for sustainability, purpose, and long-term success.

Listeners will learn:

• How non-attorneys can play a critical role in shaping the legal industry

• Why access to justice remains a major gap — and how to address it

• How rethinking the business model can unlock new markets

• Why contingency-based models can expand legal access

• How innovation goes beyond marketing and into service design

• What a modern, people-first law firm culture looks like

• Why the future of law includes both operational and structural change

👉 Tune in for a powerful conversation about innovation, impact, and how thinking differently can create meaningful change in the legal industry.

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Bill Goldberg to explore how a background in business, technology, and real-world client experience can shape a more practical, effective approach to law.

Bill shares his non-traditional path into the legal profession, starting in the tech and business world working in sales, consulting, and project management before making the decision to attend law school. That foundation gave him a unique perspective early in his legal career — one that centers not just on legal theory, but on understanding what clients actually need to succeed.

He discusses how entering law later in life allowed him to approach the profession with more intention, discipline, and clarity. Instead of focusing solely on technical legal analysis, Bill emphasizes the importance of keeping client outcomes at the center of every decision — a mindset that continues to define how he practices today.

One of the most impactful moments in his career came after being laid off from a large firm, which unexpectedly led him into solo practice. That experience forced him to take full ownership of his work, build his own client base, and develop a deeper sense of accountability — ultimately accelerating his growth as an attorney.

Bill also brings a unique perspective on technology in the legal space. With a strong interest in AI and its applications, he explains how these tools are transforming efficiency in legal work — while also warning of the risks when they are used without proper understanding. From poorly drafted contracts to unintended legal consequences, he shares real-world examples of how misuse of AI is already creating problems that attorneys will need to solve.

Listeners will learn:

• How a background in business and tech can strengthen legal practice

• Why client-centered thinking is critical for long-term success

• How non-traditional career paths can create a competitive advantage

• What solo practice teaches about ownership and growth

• How AI is improving efficiency in legal work

• The risks of relying on AI without legal expertise

• Why the future of law will require both technical skill and practical judgment

👉 Tune in for a practical and insightful conversation about career pivots, real-world experience, and how technology is reshaping the way attorneys deliver value.