In this heartfelt and wide-ranging conversation, Jason talks with Tullian Tchividjian about his new book, Fragments of Freedom. They dive into radical grace, the beauty of an “unchained life,” and how true freedom in Christ dismantles religious performance, fear, and control. Filled with laughter, vulnerability, and passionate theology, the episode also celebrates music (especially Pink Floyd), recovery community, and the joy of simply enjoying the gift of life. It’s a refreshing, no-BS discussion about what happens when grace is allowed to be as disruptive and measureless as it really is.

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