In this episode, George is joined by Patrick Dean, Sales Director at Clayton Glass.

Patrick reflects on his 22-year career in the glazing sector, discussing the biggest influences on his journey, the lessons he has learned along the way, and the key skills needed to succeed in sales.

The conversation then shifts to Clayton Glass’ newly launched Triple28. Patrick explains what Triple28 and the wider Thin Triples movement are all about, why they have become such a major talking point across the glazing industry in 2026, and the benefits they can bring to both installers and homeowners.

Patrick also shares some of his proudest achievements from his time in the industry, reveals how he stays motivated after more than two decades in the sector, and takes on the popular industry This or That? round.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down with Ash Pearson, National Sales Manager at Jack Aluminium, to talk about his journey into the glazing industry and life within a family-run business.

Ash shares how he went from working as a personal trainer in Spain to joining Jack Aluminium, the company founded by his dad, Jeff Pearson, and reflects on the challenges of learning the technical side of the sector during his early years in the role, along with being 'the boss's son'.

Now more than 12 years into his career at Jack Aluminium, Ash discusses how his perception of the industry has evolved, the opportunities the sector offers, and why he’s passionate about the future of the company.

We also chat about Jack Aluminium’s plans for FIT Show 2027, including why the company has chosen to exhibit, what visitors can expect to see on the stand, and what the team hopes to achieve from the event.

Plus, Ash takes on our quick-fire This or That round to round off the episode.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Haffner MD and Owner, Matt Thomas, for a proper deep dive into his journey through the glazing industry.

Matt shares how it all began, from growing up around the business with his dad Dave, to heading off down a completely different path training to become a barrister, before eventually finding his way into the industry.

What followed was a quick rise through the ranks, from working on second-hand machines, to sales, to working side-by-side with his dad, helping to grow the business, and ultimately taking over the reins as Managing Director four years ago.

He opens up about the realities of working with family, the pressures and pride that come with it, and how that family-first culture still runs right through Haffner today.

There are some great stories along the way too, including what it meant to deliver one of the biggest stands at FIT Show 2025 and how moments like that reflect just how far the business has come.

Matt also talks PiGs, and why he was the one who first suggested taking the network event over to Belfast. He explains what makes the city such a brilliant destination, what the industry can expect from the event, and throws in a few top recommendations for where to go while you’re there.

And, of course, no episode would be complete without putting Matt through the This or That round.