In this episode, George is joined by Patrick Dean, Sales Director at Clayton Glass.

Patrick reflects on his 22-year career in the glazing sector, discussing the biggest influences on his journey, the lessons he has learned along the way, and the key skills needed to succeed in sales.

The conversation then shifts to Clayton Glass’ newly launched Triple28. Patrick explains what Triple28 and the wider Thin Triples movement are all about, why they have become such a major talking point across the glazing industry in 2026, and the benefits they can bring to both installers and homeowners.

Patrick also shares some of his proudest achievements from his time in the industry, reveals how he stays motivated after more than two decades in the sector, and takes on the popular industry This or That? round.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, we sit down with Ash Pearson, National Sales Manager at Jack Aluminium, to talk about his journey into the glazing industry and life within a family-run business.

Ash shares how he went from working as a personal trainer in Spain to joining Jack Aluminium, the company founded by his dad, Jeff Pearson, and reflects on the challenges of learning the technical side of the sector during his early years in the role, along with being 'the boss's son'.

Now more than 12 years into his career at Jack Aluminium, Ash discusses how his perception of the industry has evolved, the opportunities the sector offers, and why he’s passionate about the future of the company.

We also chat about Jack Aluminium’s plans for FIT Show 2027, including why the company has chosen to exhibit, what visitors can expect to see on the stand, and what the team hopes to achieve from the event.

Plus, Ash takes on our quick-fire This or That round to round off the episode.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Haffner MD and Owner, Matt Thomas, for a proper deep dive into his journey through the glazing industry.

Matt shares how it all began, from growing up around the business with his dad Dave, to heading off down a completely different path training to become a barrister, before eventually finding his way into the industry.

What followed was a quick rise through the ranks, from working on second-hand machines, to sales, to working side-by-side with his dad, helping to grow the business, and ultimately taking over the reins as Managing Director four years ago.

He opens up about the realities of working with family, the pressures and pride that come with it, and how that family-first culture still runs right through Haffner today.

There are some great stories along the way too, including what it meant to deliver one of the biggest stands at FIT Show 2025 and how moments like that reflect just how far the business has come.

Matt also talks PiGs, and why he was the one who first suggested taking the network event over to Belfast. He explains what makes the city such a brilliant destination, what the industry can expect from the event, and throws in a few top recommendations for where to go while you’re there.

And, of course, no episode would be complete without putting Matt through the This or That round.

In this week’s episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Lee Manton of R W Simon for a wide-ranging chat covering both career and industry insight.

With more than 25 years in the glazing sector, Lee shares his journey from apprentice to General Manager, reflecting on the experiences, people and moments that have shaped his path along the way.

He also gives an overview of R W Simon, exploring the company’s 70-year history and where it sits in today’s market, before looking ahead to what’s next, including plans for FIT Show 2027.

The conversation then turns to trickle vents and the wider topic of ventilation in homes.

Lee explains why they remain such an important feature, challenges some of the resistance from manufacturers and homeowners, and makes the case for seeing them as a genuine value-add rather than an inconvenience.

To round things off, Lee takes on the This or That? quick-fire round, revealing whether he’s an early starter or a late finisher, a risk taker or a risk manager, and plenty more besides.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Steve Hutchinson, General Manager of Belgian hardware manufacturer Sobinco.

With more than 20 years in the window and door sector, Steve shares the story of his career journey, from his early days in the industry through to his leadership role at one of Europe’s most respected hardware brands.

The conversation covers the moments that shaped him, the people who influenced his path, and how both he and Sobinco have evolved alongside a changing and increasingly innovative market.

Steve also gives his take on what lies ahead, from future opportunities in the sector to how the business is positioning itself for continued growth.

Expect plenty of insight, a few great stories along the way, and a genuine look behind the scenes of a long-standing career in glazing.

And to round things off, Steve takes on the This or That? round, where we learn more about the man behind the role, from his love of live music to whether he thrives on routine or prefers to mix things up.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George is joined by Josh Goodwin from KallKwik Machinery.

Josh talks about his journey in the glazing industry, starting as an engineering apprentice and learning the trade from the ground up.

He shares how that path eventually led him to KallKwik, where he is now part owner, along with some of the key moments that have shaped his career.

The conversation also looks at the skills needed to succeed in the sector and the growing role of technology in machinery and manufacturing.

Josh explains what excites him most about the future of KallKwik, including how AI and training tools could help companies diagnose and fix machinery issues faster and more effectively.

To finish, Josh takes part in our This or That round as we get to know him a little better. Tune in now.

In this episode, George sits down with Danny Creese, Director of Enjoy The View Glazing and 1st Folding Sliding Doors, for an honest and insightful conversation about life in the glazing sector.

With 30 years in the industry, Danny shares his journey from starting out as an installer in Devon to building and leading his own business in London. He reflects on the lessons learned along the way, the importance of customer service, and the realities of running a company for more than two decades.

Danny opens up about the highs and lows of business ownership, the challenges that shaped him, and some truly memorable moments from his career.

He also discusses his long standing relationship with Origin Global and working closely with CEO Neil Ginger, a partnership that continues today.

The conversation also explores the launch of Enjoy The View Glazing’s new London showroom, why the recent rebrand initially gave him doubts, and how he was persuaded it was the right move.

To round things off, Danny takes on the This or That quick fire round, giving listeners a more personal glimpse behind this successful business leader.

In this episode of Two PiGs in a Pod, George sits down with Rebecca Clayton, Communications and Marketing Director at IQ Glass, to explore a career journey that is anything but ordinary.

Rebecca originally applied for a receptionist and office manager role, only to be handed a technical field sales position instead.

Thrown in at the deep end, she learned fast, building her knowledge of products, projects and the wider glazing sector through hands-on experience and determination.

She reflects on being the first woman in the company, carving out her place in a male-dominated environment, and progressing all the way to the senior leadership team.

It is an honest conversation about ambition, resilience and why visible career pathways matter for women entering the sector today.

Plus, Rebecca steps up to the PiGs “This or That” challenge. Early starter or late finisher? City break or countryside escape? Risk taker or risk manager? And the big one… coffee or tea?

Find out all the answers by watching this great episode!