MAIN TOPIC: Describing United and Independent's focus going forward and the national problems that will be discussed. Making the case that the mere re-registration as Political Independents can bring dramatic changes in the current extreme positions of the two parties.

DIGRESSION: An article in the WSJ discusses the projected speed of AI surpassing human intellegence indicated to be within the next few years by Elon Musk, Jamie Dimon, and others, and the arguments against that timetable by equally knowledgeable and experienced AI experts.

MAIN TOIC: Joe Liberman's death and NO LABELS inability to secure noted politicians to run on their presidential ticket. Discussion of remaining possible candidates, Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his new Vice President ticket mate, Nicole Shanahan, also the state of all the potential Vice President choices, and challenging the definition of winning that NO LABELS and the candidates that refused NO LABELS' approach.

DIGRESSION: Proposing a new strategy for NO LABELS going forward based on an expanded definition of "Winning" that could change the political landscape., and convince significant numbers of voters to vote Independent.

MAIN TOPIC: In discusing the problems in our Educational system, we challenge the notion that more dollars create a better outcome for the students by comparing the amount spent on education by the top ten states vs the top ten states on the SAT.

We also, announce that this is the last podcast describing a hypothetical ticket. The development of the hypothetical ticket has been paused because the four prominent possible candidates have all announced they are not running. In doing so, several of the canidates indicated they are not running because they didn't see a path to win which of course meant not winning the Presidency.

DIGRESSION: The argument is presented that their definition of winning is too narrow. An exspanded definition of winning is based on the notion that winning can be claimed if enough voters vote for a ticket with a centrist position signifying that a significant portion of the voting public does not want extremism from either party. That notion is explained by describing the effects of obtaining certain levels of the popular vote for President.