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We've Got To Talk

We've Got To Talk

著者: Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway
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Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seems intent on drawing lines in the sand and choosing sides. So why "We've Got To Talk"? Because we truly believe that in this deeply divided society, the power of conversation can unite us. Our goal isn't to change each other's opinions, but to listen with curiosity, kindness, and empathy. And yes, to have a good time while doing it! We invite you to join us on this journey and bring your friends along. We might not have all the answers or any of them—but we promise honesty, empathy, and a lot of heart. We hope our conversations give you a fresh outlook or at least entertain you as you go about your day.Copyright 2026 Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway 政治・政府 政治学 社会科学
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  • Can you be Liberal and Patriotic?
    2026/07/01
    Why does celebrating the 4th of July suddenly feel like a political statement? In this episode, Jolene and Nicole tackle the upcoming 250th birthday of the United States to explore a question dividing the country: can you be liberal and patriotic? We look back at our shared childhood memories of the 200th Bicentennial parade, contrasting that early innocence with the deep anxieties and partisan divisions shaping our modern public square.We examine the staggering data behind recent Reuters and Ipsos polling that reveals a massive patriotic split between Democrats and Republicans. Nicole shares the raw conflict liberals face regarding how the flag has been weaponized, leading to an honest conversation about why loving your country shouldn't mean endorsing a specific politician. Jolene counters with a powerful reminder on why America remains the greatest nation on earth and why everyday citizens hold the real power.We also share some beautiful, real-world proof of American unity that the mainstream media completely ignores. From a peaceful, million-person celebration parade in the heart of New York City to international World Cup tourists discovering how incredibly kind and welcoming everyday Americans are, we look at the reality outside of our toxic phone screens. We talk about the dangerous ways political parties use constant labeling to keep us fighting, and why the global "American Dream" is still very much alive.CHAPTER MARKERS:00:00 Intro.00:23 Celebrating America's upcoming 250th birthday.01:08 Remembering the 200th Bicentennial childhood.01:45 Democracy as a fragile experiment.03:36 America is the greatest nation earth.04:24 Facing historical amnesia and tyranny.05:22 Reclaiming patriotism from modern politicians.05:59 Analyzing the Reuters patriotic poll.07:00 Weaponizing the flag to divide us.09:57 Neighborhood flags and cultural anxiety.12:41 Does patriotism empower Donald Trump?17:23 What makes us proud Americans.18:36 Low voter turnout in primaries.22:14 Encouraging the left to celebrate.23:56 World Cup tourists discovering America.30:22 Bizarre combat events at White House.32:22 Discovering hope under devastating circumstances.35:36 Sports analogies entering modern politics.38:19 Decency will turn society around.39:41 Would You RatherRESOURCES MENTIONED:Graham Platner:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/09/graham-platner-maine-senate-primaryGallup Polling - Americans Divided:https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/national-pride-is-declining-in-america-and-its-splitting-by-party-lines-new-gallup-polling-showsStephen Hawkins Episode: https://youtu.be/GpcXMoW2vcg?si=HKs9cacFP8Y1ndei David French Episode: https://youtu.be/MKss8IcOB-QPro Hamas Protest in NYC? Episode: https://youtu.be/N1ay0AQcT7A?si=CWIPZdVwxYX0dKA3 Stacy Blakeley of Builders Episode: https://youtu.be/DyKi_sy9pko?si=HrbiNvVfUwrb1aT4 Artemis II Crew Flies Around the Moon: https://www.nasa.gov/podcasts/curious-universe/artemis-ii-circles-moon/ Let’s Make a Deal with Monte Hall: https://youtu.be/2UESBk2H62g?si=1CxM67Ig5NuTR3uL Happy Days Dance Marathon: https://youtu.be/MHA-odJh2Wk?si=Z2mgojJUCLSlpKcN Lee Greenwood’s God Bless The USA: https://youtu.be/-KoXt9pZLGM?si=mVkUsWggXm--Fb5u Our Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/
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    44 分
  • David French: How America Will Recover
    2026/06/24
    Why are modern political movements suddenly reviving ideas that the world discredited decades ago? In this episode, we sit down with New York Times columnist and constitutional lawyer David French to discuss the deep psychological and cultural shifts breaking our societal guardrails. David shares his unique journey from growing up in the conservative South to serving as an JAG officer in the Army Reserve in Iraq, providing a grounded framework for why our current public discourse feels so dangerous.We focus on David's striking concept to answer the question: why we are in the great forgetting. We look at how the passing of the generations who personally survived world wars, fascism, and communism has left a vacuum in our collective memory. We talk about the terrifying ways history is currently being weaponized as a tool for ideological victory rather than studied as a pursuit of wisdom and truth.We also pull back the curtain on the dangerous rise of transactional politics on both the left and the right. Using the controversial candidacies of Graham Platner and Ken Paxton, we examine how the angriest wings of the major parties capture the primary system, leaving the "exhausted majority" to passively follow. David issues a profound warning to voters on how supporting a corrupt or cruel politician ultimately corrupts the character of the voter more than it changes the leader.Finally, we look at the vital difference between ideological moderation and temperamental moderation. We talk about why the ability to hold robust convictions while maintaining cross-political friendships is the single most important skill Americans must relearn.CHAPTER MARKERS:00:00 Intro.00:26 Introduction of columnist David French.01:08 From Southern fundamentalism to constitutional law.04:39 Serving as an Army Reserve JAG officer.05:29 Choosing a journalism career over law.08:52 Unpacking the Great Forgetting concept.13:19 How educational gaps fuel historical amnesia.14:42 Weaponizing history in the culture wars.18:06 Losing our direct contact with history.19:29 Ideological moderation versus temperamental moderation.23:40 The reality of the exhausted majority.27:44 Primary turnouts shaping general election options.31:55 Facing decade-long pushback as Never-Trump.33:42 How corrupt leaders change their voters.35:37 The thermostatic nature of American politics.37:31 Finding electoral hope in independent behavior.45:39 Pastor Tim Keller on broken friendships.49:33 Will MAGA survive without Donald Trump?52:05 The cultural obsession with fake authenticity.RESOURCES MENTIONED:David’s Podcast: https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/More In Common: https://moreincommonus.com/Brad Porteus: https://www.bridgegrades.org/ David’s Good For The Soul: The Return of the King by J.R.R. Tolkienhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61215384-the-return-of-the-king Our Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/
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  • Who actually votes for Donald Trump?
    2026/06/17
    Why does it feel like modern politics has shifted from simple disagreements to an all-out war for team loyalty? In this episode, we sit down with Stephen Hawkins, the director of research for More in Common, an international organization tracking the deep psychology, values, and hidden tribes behind our fractured global landscape. Stephen breaks down his journey from an evangelical College Republican to a cosmopolitan progressive activist, revealing why the simplistic categories used by the media fail to explain our real inner lives.We examine More in Common’s massive new study to answer the question: who actually votes for Donald Trump? We unpack the shocking data showing that the modern Republican voter base is the youngest and most racially diverse it has been in half a century. Jolene and Nicole share their own unexpected results from taking the coalition quiz, and we look at the real economic and border anxieties driving the "Reluctant Right" versus the deeply personal identity anchoring "MAGA Hardliners."We also pull back the curtain on the completely broken incentive structures keeping Washington D.C. locked in conflict. From social media algorithms that monetize rage to a political system that forces members of Congress to spend up to 70% of their time fundraising, we look at how combativeness has become a highly profitable business model. CHAPTER MARKERS:00:00 Intro.00:26 Meet research director Stephen Hawkins.01:08 Stephen’s journey across both political tribes.03:01 The tragic origins of More in Common.07:08 Moving beyond simplistic demographics in polling.11:46 Understanding America's exhausted majority.12:42 Breaking down the modern Trump coalition.14:21 Host results from the coalition quiz.18:43 The myth of shy Trump voters.20:23 MAGA hardliners and personal identity.22:00 The Democratic perception gap on economics.25:19 How media models monetize political rage.27:55 The exhausting reality of congressional fundraising.30:15 How D.C. camaraderie completely died.34:42 Solidarity during major American crises.38:00 Political lessons from the Gilded Age.44:38 Why public institutional trust eroded.47:09 Gen Z as political kingmakers.50:56 AI as a shared societal threat.53:52 Good for the soul book recommendation.55:22 Would You Rather: Banning anonymous accounts.57:32 Would You Rather: Hometown versus cruise.RESOURCES MENTIONED:Stephen Hawkins Organization: https://moreincommonus.com/Stephen Hawkins Report: https://beyondmaga.us/ Brad Porteus: https://www.bridgegrades.org/ Stephen's Good for the Soul: https://rutgerbregman.com/books/moral-ambition Our Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/
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    1 時間 2 分
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