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Have you ever stopped to ask yourself—am I putting people first, or just chasing outcomes?

For the first time, David Tellefsen removes the armor.

In this episode, the 22-year Marine Corps veteran and Director of Veterans Services in Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin, shares what drives his passion for serving others—and why people must always come before profit.

We discuss leadership, the identity shift after the military, and the reality many veterans face when transitioning. David also breaks down common VA benefit misconceptions, the danger of comparison, and why focusing on your own journey matters.

This is a conversation about purpose, leadership, and putting people first—every time.

⏱️ Chapters

0:00 – Opening and Guest Teaser
0:25 – What Unarmored Talk Means
0:52 – From Military Family to Marines
2:50 – Why He Keeps Serving Veterans
7:18 – Identity After Leaving the Corps
10:05 – People First Leadership in Civilians
13:00 – Comparison and Disability Rating Traps
17:10 – The Indoc He Wishes He Took
19:15 – Finding Help Through County VSOs
20:22 – Closing Thoughts and Thanks

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