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  • 476: From the Olympic Track to Betrayal Recovery

    476: From the Olympic Track to Betrayal Recovery
    2026/06/01
    What do the Olympic Games and betrayal recovery have in common? More than you'd think. In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi sits down with former Olympian and transformational speaker Cherita O'Dell — who represented Barbados in the long jump at the 1996 Atlanta Centennial Games — for a conversation that is equal parts raw, inspiring, and deeply practical. Cherita's Olympic story isn't the one you'd expect. She qualified with a national record jump made in anger after a frustrating moment with her coach. Then, days before her event, she tore her hamstring in three places on a rain-soaked runway — and watched her own event from the Olympic dorm on TV. It was, as she describes it, "the highest and lowest point of my life at the exact same time." But what followed — the bounce back, the resilience, the refusal to stay crumpled in the sand — is exactly what makes Cherita's message so timely for anyone healing from betrayal. In this episode, you'll discover: The mindset of an elite Olympic athlete and what it teaches us about healing from betrayal How visualization before action rewires the body's response (and why it works the same way in recovery) What "Stop asking God to bless your plans — make decisions God can bless" really means, and how to apply it The danger of letting the "love bug" override your discernment — and what to do instead Why "You complete me" is the most dangerous thing you can say in a relationship What true wholeness looks like before entering a relationship How to use betrayal as a pivot point into your best self Cherita's framework for post-betrayal growth — mourn it, enhance yourself, stay optimistic, and build filters for future discernment — maps beautifully onto The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. This is one you won't want to miss. Connect with Cherita O'Dell: Website: https://cheritaodellspeaks.com/ Book: Good God, Help Me Out — goodgodhelpmeout.com Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com Watch the episode on Dr. Debi's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber
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    31 分
  • 475: Why You're Not Falling Behind — The Truth About Betrayal Recovery

    475: Why You're Not Falling Behind — The Truth About Betrayal Recovery
    2026/05/25
    If you've been feeling like you're losing hope, hitting setbacks, or struggling to set boundaries — this episode is for you. Dr. Debi Silber is pulling straight from her recent coaching sessions to shine a spotlight on three of the most common themes she's seeing right now. And here's the thing: none of them mean you're failing. In fact, they're all part of the healing process. In this episode, Dr. Debi breaks down: 1. Losing Hope It's one of the most common experiences after betrayal — and one of the most dangerous if left unchecked. Dr. Debi explains why losing hope happens (especially when you're doing the work and your partner isn't), why "what you feed grows," and how her personal "transformation tunnel" technique can help you find evidence of forward movement, even when you can't feel it yet. 2. Setbacks Setbacks aren't signs that you're going backward. Like muscle fibers that must tear to rebuild stronger, the forward-and-back nature of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ is by design. Dr. Debi unpacks why triggers losing their charge, waves of unexpected grief, and difficult days are actually signs of growth — and how to acknowledge and celebrate them as such. 3. Boundaries Creating a new version of yourself after betrayal requires new boundaries — and new boundaries are never comfortable. Dr. Debi shares why boundaries are non-negotiable as you move toward Stage 4 and Stage 5, how to introduce them in both big and small ways, and why her favorite mantra — hard now, easy later — applies here more than anywhere. Whether you're rebuilding with someone, healing on your own, or somewhere in between, this episode will help you see your experience with fresh eyes and give yourself the credit you deserve. Resources Mentioned: Learn about The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™: https://thepbtinstitute.com Work with Dr. Debi (Private Sessions): https://thepbtinstitute.com/one-session-with-dr-debi/ PBT Certification for Coaches & Practitioners: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/ Speaking Inquiries: https://thepbtinstitute.com/speaking/ Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: 🌐 Website: https://thepbtinstitute.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/debisilber/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debisilber/ ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber
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    31 分
  • 474: It's Never Too Late to Reinvent Yourself

    474: It's Never Too Late to Reinvent Yourself
    2026/05/18
    Guest: Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, Founder & CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA) From Betrayal to Breakthrough with Dr. Debi Silber Episode Overview What does it take to reinvent yourself — not once, but multiple times? In this warm and inspiring conversation, Dr. Debi Silber welcomes her dear friend Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, a clinical psychologist, functional medicine expert, and founder of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). Sandy launched FMCA at 65 and is now thriving in her late 70s — lifting weights, dancing ballet and tap, and training other health coaches to change lives. This episode is a masterclass in courage, identity, self-efficacy, and what becomes possible when you stop letting age (or other people's opinions) define you. Meet Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum Dr. Sandy Scheinbaum has worn many professional hats across five decades: Elementary education teacher — pivoted after struggling with classroom management Learning disabilities specialist — thrived in one-on-one settings Independent floor trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange — a short-lived but clarifying experiment Clinical and health psychologist — a long, fulfilling career specializing in chronic illness, biofeedback, and mind-body medicine Functional medicine practitioner — added certification to deepen her clinical work Founder & CEO of FMCA — launched at 65 to train health coaches in functional medicine and positive psychology principles What You'll Hear in This Episode Why failure and "career dead ends" are often the best redirects How Sandy tuned out the naysayers — including her own husband — and launched FMCA anyway The role courage, creativity, and community play in reinvention at any age Why identity is not fixed — and how midlife is a profound opportunity for identity development Sandy's daily movement routine: strength training, ballet, tap dance, yoga, and "exercise snacks" How self-efficacy — the belief that your actions matter — is the foundation of health transformation What happens to self-efficacy after betrayal, and how the right support can restore it How health coaches trained in positive psychology help clients reconnect with their strengths, purpose, and possibility The importance of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ in moving from stuck to transformed Key Takeaways Reinvention isn't a detour — it's the path. Every career "failure" in Sandy's life led her somewhere better. What looked like a dead end was actually a redirection toward greater meaning and purpose. Your identity is not fixed. Just as adolescence is a critical period for identity formation, so is midlife. You can try on new identities — athlete, entrepreneur, artist — at any stage of life. Movement is non-negotiable — but it's personal. Sandy didn't become athletic until her 70s. She now has more muscle than she did in her 40s. The key isn't a one-size-fits-all plan — it's finding what you enjoy and making it a habit. Self-efficacy is everything. The belief that your choices matter — in your health, your career, your healing — is the foundation of transformation. Betrayal often shatters that belief. A skilled coach helps rebuild it. You can't imagine where you'll end up — and that's okay. Just as no one could have imagined cell phones or AI, you cannot predict the fullness of what's ahead. The invitation is to start anyway. The "okay" is the most dangerous place. When things are fine but not fulfilling, many people stay stuck. The "okay" is what keeps people from reaching for more. Quotable Moments "Change is possible. You're never too old. It's never too late. And reinventing yourself is good." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "When you are changing, you are mobilizing those underutilized parts of you that are tied into having greater meaning and purpose." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "I train for my future self — so I can lift groceries, put things on the shelf, get down on the floor and get back up again." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "Nothing good comes from embarrassment or shame." — Dr. Albert Ellis (cited by Dr. Scheinbaum) "The okay is the most soul-sucking thing." — Dr. Debi Silber About Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum is a clinical psychologist, functional medicine practitioner, and the founder and CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). She launched FMCA at age 65 to train health coaches in the principles of functional medicine and positive psychology. FMCA is now a nationally recognized program receiving top accolades and attracting talented practitioners from around the world. Sandy is also a dancer, weightlifter, yogi, and living proof that reinvention has no expiration date. Connect with Dr. Scheinbaum Website: ...
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    35 分
  • 473: 3 Things Betrayal Destroys That Show Up Everywhere

    473: 3 Things Betrayal Destroys That Show Up Everywhere
    2026/05/11
    After recovering from pneumonia, Dr. Debi returned to her microphone with a packed day — five podcast interviews across five completely different audiences. What she discovered was striking: no matter the industry, background, or life stage, three core wounds from betrayal kept surfacing in every single conversation. In this episode, Dr. Debi covers: Why she did five back-to-back podcast interviews in one day — and what the experience revealed The five audiences she spoke with: survivors of narcissistic relationships, women entrepreneurs, health coaches, sales teams, and leaders The three things betrayal shatters that quietly derail health, business, relationships, and performance — no matter how long ago the betrayal happened The Three Common Threads: 1. Trust Trust breaks differently depending on the arena — but it always breaks. Dr. Debi explores how shattered trust shows up in future romantic relationships after narcissistic betrayal, in the inability to form collaborative business partnerships, in clients who can't commit to a health plan, in salespeople who can't close, and in leaders who micromanage instead of delegate. And beneath all of it: the moment you stop trusting the person you trusted most, you stop trusting yourself — and your internal compass for discerning trustworthiness feels broken. 2. Confidence A shattered sense of confidence quietly sabotages everything. It keeps narcissistic abuse survivors from attracting healthy relationships. It stops women entrepreneurs from speaking boldly about their businesses. It shows up in health clients through emotional eating, exhaustion, and accelerated aging. It tanks sales numbers. And it undermines leaders who need their teams to feel steadiness and certainty — even in uncertainty. Dr. Debi notes that 47% of everyone who has been betrayed experiences weight changes, often rooted in this same confidence wound. 3. Beliefs Beliefs are the deepest layer — and the most overlooked. Dr. Debi shares her definition: a belief is the repetition of an idea from someone you trust. It doesn't have to be true to become yours. After betrayal — especially narcissistic betrayal with gaslighting — people absorb deeply disempowering beliefs: I'm not enough. I can't. I'll never. These beliefs drive every action, every result, and every ceiling. She walks through how limiting beliefs silently cap the success of entrepreneurs, block clients from following through on health plans, sink sales performance, and create a "stuckness" in leaders who can't break through to the next level. Key Insight: Rebuilding your life after betrayal is possible — and many people do it. But rebuilding your self — your trust, your confidence, your beliefs — is what moves you from Stage 3 to Stage 5 of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. That's the difference between functioning and truly transforming. Dr. Debi Invites You To Reflect: Where is a lack of trust showing up in your relationships, your work, or your health? Where has shattered confidence gone unaddressed — and how is it limiting you today? What "I can't" or "I'll never" beliefs are quietly driving your decisions? Resources Mentioned: UNSTUCK: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation — Dr. Debi's latest book, with guidance on identifying betrayal clients and the language that actually reachesthem The Post Betrayal Syndrome® Assessment — taken by over 100,000 people in 50+ countries; 84% of those betrayed report an inability to trust The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ The PBT Institute.com: https://thepbtinstitute.com Enjoyed this episode? Share it with someone who needs to hear it. And reach out to Dr. Debi — she'd love to know what resonated with you.
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    36 分
  • 472: Behind the Scenes with Dr. Debi — A Surprise Interview with My Daughter Camryn

    472: Behind the Scenes with Dr. Debi — A Surprise Interview with My Daughter Camryn
    2026/05/04
    What happens when you hand the microphone to your daughter and tell her to ask whatever she wants — no prep, no filters? That's exactly what this episode is. My daughter Camryn sat down with me for a conversation I didn't see coming, asking questions designed to draw out the side of Dr. Debi that doesn't always show up in research discussions or keynote stages — the personal, the raw, the real. From what betrayal physically felt like in my body before I had any language for it, to what Stage Three actually looked like in our home, to what full transformation feels like at 60 with a grandchild on the way — this one goes places I rarely go publicly. If you've ever wondered what the behind-the-scenes life of someone who built the world's leading organization for betrayal recovery research, education and transformation looks like, this episode is for you. In This Episode: Why Dr. Debi prioritizes being the same person everywhere — and what that has to do with a world of shattered trust What betrayal felt like physically (hint: heartbreak is very real, and yoga almost broke her) What "functioning but not healed" — Stage Three — actually looked like in daily life The beliefs about betrayal she had to let go of that she never expected to question Her biggest fear about what her children would take from watching her go through it Why rebuilding with someone is harder than walking away — and what she learned from doing it What "wise trust" looks like now, and how it's different from before What Stage Five feels like in real life — 40 people in formal wear jumping in the pool, coffee time at 6am, and not caring what anyone thinks What she would say to herself on D-Day, the day everything came out Camryn's reflection on watching her mother not just rebuild, but transform — and what that gave the whole family A Note from Dr. Debi: I didn't know the questions. I didn't prepare. And that was the whole point. Camryn wanted to pull out the heart — not the researcher, not the speaker — just me. I think she did. I hope something in this conversation reaches you wherever you are in your journey. And if you're in the depths of it right now: hard now, easy later. You're so much stronger than you think. Resources Mentioned: Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ From Betrayal to Breakthrough Podcast Connect with Dr. Debi: Website: thepbtinstitute.com Instagram: @debisilber If this episode moved you, share it with someone who needs it.
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    21 分
  • 471: How to Be a Friend in an Unfriendly World

    471: How to Be a Friend in an Unfriendly World
    2026/04/27
    What does it actually take to be a good friend — to others and to yourself? In this rich conversation, Dr. Debi sits down with award-winning filmmaker, Columbia University faculty member, and author Barnet Bain to explore the surprising truth about why so many of us struggle in friendships: we never learned how. Drawing from his course on relationships taught at Columbia and his new book How to Be a Friend in an Unfriendly World, Barnet unpacks the invisible programming we carry from childhood, the neuroscience of emotional imprinting, and the practical steps toward becoming someone who can truly show up — for others and for yourself. Guest: Barnet Bain Barnet Bain is an award-winning Hollywood filmmaker, author, and educator who served on the faculty at Columbia University, where he taught a master's-level course called Artistry and Personal Spirituality — a deeply relational and psychological exploration of how we connect with others. His work spans film, writing, and teaching, all rooted in a lifelong inquiry into what it means to be in authentic relationship. 📖 Book: How to Be a Friend in an Unfriendly World — available in bookstores and online, including Amazon 🌐 Website: www.barnetbain.com What You'll Hear in This Episode Why no one actually taught us how to be a friend We learned to say please and thank you. We learned to compete and succeed. But nobody ever sat us down and said: here's what to do when feelings are hurt, here'show to stay connected when things are awkward, here's how to not quietly drift apart from people you love. Those foundational relational skills were simply never taught. The "hand-me-down" beliefs running your relationships From infancy through school and beyond, we absorb beliefs, opinions, and emotional patterns — not through deliberate instruction, but by osmosis. Most of us have never questioned whether these beliefs are actually true or originally ours. Barnet describes the startling realization that one of his first original thoughts was simply: has any thought I've ever had actually been my own? Molecules of Emotion and in-utero imprinting Inspired by Dr. Candace Pert's groundbreaking work, Barnet explains how emotional patterns can be imprinted before birth. A mother's inner emotional life — her fears, her relationship to the father, her feelings about becoming a parent — all have biochemical correlates that are shared with her unborn child. Add to that the research on generational trauma (the famous cherry blossom/mouse study gets a mention), and it becomes clear: we are carrying far more than our own story. State-bound experiences: why we react from the past, not the present One of the most compelling concepts in this episode. A state-bound experience is when a present-day stimulus — a song, a smell, a tone of voice — instantly calls up an emotional state from long ago, triggering an old response in a new situation. Most of our reactions to difficult moments in relationships aren't really about now — they're old programs running on autopilot. The sunburn analogy When you have a sunburn and someone slaps you on the back, your reaction isn't really about them — it's about the unhealed wound. The same is true emotionally. An outsized reaction to something someone says or does is almost always a signal: there's a sunburn here that hasn't healed. The path forward isn't to blame the person who touched it — it's to tend to the wound. Reactions vs. responses A reaction is automatic, coming from the sunburn. A response is what becomes possible when you slow down enough to recognize: this isn't about now. That pause — that moment of awareness — is where choice enters. You can't be a better friend to others than you are to yourself This one lands differently when you hear it in the context of betrayal healing. Many of us have been great friends to others while running a brutal inner monologue toward ourselves. That kind of friendship isn't sustainable — and it often has less to do with love and more to do with trying to feel worthy. Real friendship starts inside. The ingredients of genuine friendship Safety first — not bubble wrap, but the kind of safety where vulnerability isn't weaponized. Can your friend say something honest and messy about you without you flinching, deflecting, or lashing out? That's a growth edge worth paying attention to. Consistency over intensity — friendships fade when left to convenience. Like a rose garden, they require regular tending. A simple text: "Thinking of you — no reply needed." Undivided presence — put down the device. Look someone in the eye. Be with them. Your presence, undistracted, is one of the greatest gifts you can offer another human being. Making friends as adults It's harder — not because people are less friendly, but because the organic conditions that once created connection (same classroom, same playground...
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    38 分
  • 470: The Wall That Protected You Is Now Your Prison

    470: The Wall That Protected You Is Now Your Prison
    2026/04/20
    TRIGGER WARNING: CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE In this powerful and important episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Chris Yadon, Executive Director of Saprea, a nonprofit dedicated to the prevention of childhood sexual abuse (CSA) and healing for survivors. Chris shares his own journey — growing up amid instability, learning to emotionally numb as a child — and how that personal experience became the foundation for his professional mission at Saprea. Together, Dr. Debi and Chris explore why childhood sexual abuse is such a uniquely devastating betrayal: in 80% of cases, the perpetrator is someone the child knows and trusts. They unpack the psychology of trauma bonding, betrayal blindness, and why survivors often don't recognize the abuse as abnormal until young adulthood. Chris explains the three forces that keep CSA under-reported — shame, trauma bonding, and perpetrator threats — and why these silencers persist well into adulthood. They also discuss the lasting impacts of unhealed childhood sexual abuse, including sobering statistics: 85% of survivors who don't address their trauma will develop a mental health disorder by age 30, and survivors are three times more likely to attempt suicide than the general population. From substance use to eating disorders, anxiety to depression, the cost of not healing is profound — and it shows up at work, in relationships, and in every corner of life. Chris shares Saprea's prevention model, the role parents and caregivers play in reducing risk on both sides, and how healing can begin at any age. He closes with a beautiful, hope-filled story of Kaya Noah — a survivor whose emotional walls came down in a snowfall — and three memorable takeaways about connection, community, and courage. If you or someone you love is a survivor, this episode carries a clear and compassionate message: healing is possible. And the resources are free. 🔗 Learn more: saprea.org 📌 Find Chris on LinkedIn or Substack: search "Yadon" Dr. Debi sits down with Chris Yadon of Saprea to explore childhood sexual abuse — what makes it so psychologically damaging, why it stays hidden, how it shows up in adult relationships and the workplace, and most importantly, how healing is possible at any age.
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    33 分
  • 469: What Do You Want to Be When You Grow Up?

    469: What Do You Want to Be When You Grow Up?
    2026/04/13
    In this reflective solo episode, Dr. Debi Silber shares an unexpected gift that came from a two-week battle with pneumonia — the forced stillness to ask herself one of life's most enduring questions: What do you want to be when you grow up? With her daughter's wedding just days away, Dr. Debi opens up about how illness slowed her down enough to take stock of what she's outgrown, what she's still settling for, and what she truly wants in this season of life. The result is a warm, honest, and deeply practical conversation about becoming more intentional — with your time, your energy, your relationships, and yourself. In This Episode, You'll Hear: Why the question "What do you want to be when you grow up?" deserves a second (and third) look — at every age What a recent unprepared interview guest taught Dr. Debi about standards and saying no The "Sit in the Seat" game Dr. Debi played with her family — and what it revealed about how she actually shows up The yes/no confusion that keeps so many of us stuck — and how to start untangling it How to use your body as a meter for who and what is truly good for you The "cake ingredients" framework: what you're putting into your life, and why the outcome makes perfect sense Why we become more of whatever we already are as we age — and why that's both a warning and an invitation Reflection Questions from This Episode: What have you outgrown? What are you still settling for? What do you want your life to look, feel, and sound like now? What are you saying yes to — and what does that force you to say no to? If your highest and best self were watching, what would she say? Key Insight: "It starts with awareness. The next step is action." Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: 🌐 thepbtinstitute.com 📲 Follow on social: @DebiSilber 🎙️ Subscribe to From Betrayal to Breakthrough wherever you listen to podcasts If this episode resonated with you, Dr. Debi would love to hear from you — what do YOU want to become more of as you grow?
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    20 分