Recorded live at the California Masonry Council's Design and Expo Day, host Adam Hutchinson sits down with Christian Benoit, first-place winner in the concrete block category — and a student who had never worked with masonry before this project.

Christian walks through how he turned a studio assignment on compressed stabilized earth block and rammed earth into an award-winning CMU design, why masonry might be sequestering more carbon than anyone realized, and why he thinks architecture schools are missing the boat on teaching masonry the way they teach mass timber.

Along the way, they discuss the real cost comparison between wood-frame and CMU walls, how California's climate zones change the insulation game, and why 150 students showing up to one event might be the blueprint for getting the next generation into the trade.

In this episode:

• How Christian adapted an earth-block studio project into a first-place concrete masonry design
• The surprising research on how much CO2 a CMU can permanently sequester over its lifetime
• Why a CMU wall can cost about the same as a wood-frame wall — once you count the trades
• How California's climate zones affect (or eliminate) the need for insulated block
• What it's like entering the masonry industry with zero prior masonry background
• Why Christian thinks masonry deserves its own place in architecture curricula
• The power of getting students physically in the room — CMC bused 150 students to this event
• What mentorship actually looked like on his path to an architecture degree
• Why showing up to a competition is worth it even if you don't win

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Evan Hall joins Adam live from the California Masonry Council Design & Expo to discuss Project Chimney, an inspiring initiative preserving historic masonry chimneys that survived the Palisades Fire. Evan shares how House Museum partnered with masonry contractors and industry organizations to carefully salvage these iconic structures, protecting an important piece of Los Angeles' architectural history while creating a lasting memorial to resilience and recovery.

Evan also discusses the vital role masonry plays in historic preservation, why the industry's craftsmanship deserves greater recognition, and how better storytelling, collaboration, and community engagement can help inspire the next generation of builders. This conversation offers a unique perspective on the lasting value of masonry—not only as a building material, but as a way of preserving culture, history, and craftsmanship.

In This Episode:

• The story behind Project Chimney and the preservation of historic Palisades chimneys
• Why masonry remains one of the world's most durable and resilient building materials
• How contractors safely salvage and reconstruct historic masonry structures
• The importance of preserving both architectural history and skilled trade knowledge
• Why branding and storytelling are major opportunities for the masonry industry
• How collaboration between preservationists and masonry professionals is driving innovation
• The importance of inspiring homeowners, architects, and the next generation of masons

Connect with Evan:
Website: https://www.house.museum/mission/leadership
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evan.hall/

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute:
https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Adam sits down with Emeka Ukaga from the California Masonry Council to discuss the future of masonry and why the industry has an incredible opportunity to lead conversations around resilience, sustainability, and innovative building design. Drawing on his background in architectural engineering and building policy, Emeka shares how organizations like the California Masonry Council are helping bridge the gap between technical expertise, education, and industry advocacy.

Together, they explore how masonry can play a critical role in addressing today's biggest building challenges—from wildfire resilience and energy efficiency to creative architectural design and long-term durability. They also discuss why stronger collaboration, better storytelling, and continued innovation will help position masonry as the material of choice for the next generation of construction.

In This Episode:

• How the California Masonry Council is advancing technical education, advocacy, and industry marketing
• Why masonry is uniquely positioned to meet today's demands for resilient and sustainable construction
• The role building codes and public policy play in shaping the future of the industry
• How architects and engineers can push the creative boundaries of masonry design
• Why wildfire resilience, durability, and long-term performance are becoming more important than ever
• The value of collaboration, mentorship, and knowledge sharing across the masonry community
• Why the industry must do a better job telling masonry's story to designers, owners, and the public

Connect with Emeka:
Website: https://www.californiamasonrycouncil.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckukaga

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Chantelle Roberts joins Adam live from the California Masonry Council Design & Expo to discuss one of the industry's biggest challenges: attracting and retaining talent. Drawing from her experience in both masonry and terrazzo, she shares insights on apprenticeship programs, the changing perception of trade careers, and why construction must evolve its culture to better support younger generations and women entering the workforce.

Chantelle also talks about the importance of collaboration, mentorship, and innovation in masonry, while highlighting the need for stronger industry storytelling around the value, versatility, and long-term benefits of masonry construction. This conversation offers a valuable perspective on how the industry can continue to grow and thrive.

In This Episode:

• Why apprenticeship programs are critical to the future of the masonry workforce
• The importance of recruiting younger generations into construction
• Creating opportunities for women to succeed in the masonry industry
• Why appreciation, mentorship, and leadership matter in retaining talent
• Why collaboration across contractors, designers, and industry organizations is essential
• How innovation and creativity can help expand the use of masonry materials
• The workforce challenges facing the industry and what organizations can do to address them

Connect with Chantelle:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chantellemroberts?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Website: https://masonry-concepts.com/

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute:

https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

Ben Stapleton has spent more than two decades working at the intersection of real estate, sustainability, and innovation. As CEO of USGBC California, he leads one of the country's largest green building organizations, helping train thousands of industry professionals each year while advancing climate resilience, sustainable development, and low-carbon building solutions across the state.

In this episode of In The Mix, Ben joins Adam live from the California Masonry Council Design & Expo to discuss the future of resilient construction, rebuilding after natural disasters, and the role masonry can play in creating stronger, more sustainable communities.

Drawing from his work supporting wildfire recovery efforts across California, Ben shares lessons learned from rebuilding after devastating fires, how communities can better prepare for future disasters, and why building materials must be evaluated through a long-term lens rather than short-term environmental metrics. He also explores the growing importance of embodied carbon, transparency in construction materials, and why the masonry industry has a unique opportunity to tell a stronger sustainability story.

In This Episode:

• How USGBC California is helping communities prepare for and recover from wildfires
• Lessons learned from rebuilding efforts after major California fire disasters
• Why resilience should be a central focus of modern building design
• The role masonry plays in durability, wildfire resistance, and long-term sustainability
• Common misconceptions about embodied carbon and environmental product declarations (EPDs)
• Why life-cycle thinking matters when evaluating building materials
• How the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics are driving conversations around low-carbon construction
• The importance of transparency, innovation, and data in the future of the building industry
• What the masonry industry can do to better communicate its sustainability advantages

Connect with Ben:
Website: https://usgbc-ca.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstapleton

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

After more than four decades as an architect, Steve Blye has designed everything from healthcare facilities and schools to municipal buildings and large-scale institutional projects. Today, as the Design and Technical Architect for the Masonry Advisory Council, he's helping architects, engineers, and owners better understand one of the most versatile building materials available: masonry.

In this episode of In The Mix, Steve joins Adam to share how his perspective on masonry evolved throughout his career, what architects often overlook when specifying masonry systems, and why some of the industry's oldest building methods still offer some of the best solutions today.

From lessons learned in architecture school to insights gained through decades of real-world projects, Steve explains how masonry continues to deliver durability, resilience, energy efficiency, fire resistance, and long-term value. He also discusses common misconceptions, evolving wall system designs, and why education remains one of the biggest opportunities for the next generation of architects and engineers.

In This Episode:

• Steve's journey from architect to masonry industry advocate
• Why masonry remains one of the most durable building materials available
• Common design misconceptions architects and engineers encounter
• How cavity wall systems have evolved over time
• The role of masonry in sustainability and carbon sequestration
• Lessons from historic masonry structures around the world
• Why education and industry collaboration matter for the future of design
• The hidden value masonry provides over a building's lifespan

What if the future of masonry isn’t just about better materials, but better relationships, smarter collaboration, and building structures designed to outlast generations?

In this episode of In The Mix, Adam sits down with Jordan Krebs of Sunset Stone to talk about the evolving world of manufactured stone veneer, masonry relationships, and what it really means to build a long-term career in the construction industry.

From the manufacturing process behind handcrafted stone veneer to the future of masonry in modern design-build construction, Jordan shares insights from both the sales side and the contractor side of the industry. The conversation explores everything from mortar technology and thermal mass to craftsmanship, workforce development, and why masonry continues to stand the test of time.

Adam and Jordan also reflect on their shared history in Spokane, the importance of relationship-building in construction, and how masonry products continue to shape communities for generations to come.

In this episode, we cover:

• Jordan’s journey into the masonry and hardscape industry through family connections and growing up around masonry products
• What makes Sunset Stone unique in the manufactured stone veneer market
• Why relationships and long-term trust matter more than “selling” in the construction industry
• How design-build delivery is changing the way masonry products are specified on projects
• The importance of craftsmanship, apprenticeship, and bringing younger generations into the masonry trades
• How masonry projects can revitalize communities and create buildings designed to last for generations

About the Guest:

Jordan Krebs is a sales representative for Sunset Stone in the Pacific Northwest, specializing in manufactured stone veneer systems and masonry products. With a background in hardscapes, dry cast products, and masonry materials, Jordan brings a relationship-focused approach to the construction industry, working closely with contractors, architects, distributors, and builders throughout the region. Passionate about craftsmanship, long-term building performance, and the future of the trades, Jordan is dedicated to helping projects succeed through collaboration, technical knowledge, and practical industry experience.

Connect with Jordan:

Website: https://sunsetstone.net/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-krebs-82074a30a

https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunset-stone-llc?trk=public_profile_topcard-current-company

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

What does it really take to build a lasting masonry business from the ground up?

In this episode of In the Mix, Adam sits down with Benjamin Warfield of Warfield Masonry to talk about family legacy, entrepreneurship, apprenticeship, and the mindset required to survive and grow in the construction industry for nearly 25 years.

From growing up on masonry job sites with his father to launching his own company at 27 during the 2008 market crash, Ben shares the real story behind building Warfield Masonry into one of the Pacific Northwest’s most respected masonry contractors. The conversation dives into leadership, risk-taking, union partnerships, mentorship, marketing, design-build collaboration, and why relationships are the foundation of long-term success in construction.

Along the way, Adam and Ben also discuss podcasting, snowboarding, faith, personal growth, and the importance of investing time into both people and craft.

In this episode:

• How Warfield Masonry started as a family business in 1977
• Ben’s journey from residential masonry into commercial construction
• What the 2008 recession taught him about resilience and business
• The importance of networking, relationships, and long sales cycles
• Why joining the union changed the trajectory of the company
• Lessons learned about leadership, apprenticeship, and company culture
• The role of marketing and personal branding in construction
• How collaboration and design-build improve project outcomes
• Ben’s “5 things” every mason and contractor should know
• Why mentorship, honesty, and investing in people matter most

About the Guest:
Benjamin Warfield is the owner of Warfield Masonry, a Washington-based masonry contractor specializing in commercial, residential, and architectural masonry projects throughout the Pacific Northwest. Raised in the trade from a young age, Ben has spent decades building his expertise in masonry construction, business leadership, and workforce development. He is a passionate advocate for apprenticeship, union craftsmanship, design-build collaboration, and advancing the masonry industry through education, relationships, and mentorship.

Connect with Ben:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/warfield_masonry_llc/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-warfield-78503b16

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix