What if the secret to lifelong romance isn’t perfection—but being willing to grow together, even after 30 years?

On this episode of the Marriage of Greatness podcast, Evan Money and Susan Money welcome John Burge and Diana Burge, a couple who defy the odds in a world where LA’s divorce rate soars to 75%. Discover how they’ve built a marriage that stands out for joy, connection, and continued growth—even as entrepreneurs, parents of grown daughters, and mentors to other couples.

Key highlights:

• The three things John Burge and Diana Burge are most grateful for about each other—including humor, empathy, and faith.
• Personal journeys of outgrowing people-pleasing and learning to let go as parents.
• The surprising advice they give every couple about happiness and priorities.
• Daily habits, the “marriage pyramid,” and the transformative power of just 10 intentional minutes together.
• How their devotion to marriage ministry and working on themselves has changed their lives.

Don’t miss their heartening insights and vulnerable stories about building greatness in marriage—no matter what stage of life you’re in.

Timestamped Overview

[00:00] Meet John & Diana Burge

[01:47] Introduction and background

[04:04] Top three things they’re grateful for

[07:30] Discussion on eating disorders & body image

[10:49] Outgrowing people-pleasing and letting go as parents

[14:13] Their daughters and family updates

[17:08] When they realized their marriage was different

[19:52] The power of intentional connection

[23:34] Most impactful marriage advice

[29:03] The importance of daily intentional conversation

[31:06] If your marriage was a movie...

[32:47] Most memorable gifts given

[35:43] Encouragement for couples: 100/0, happiness, and personal growth

[39:34] Wrap-up and how to connect

What if the secret to a thriving marriage isn’t love—but asking the right questions?

In this inspiring episode, Susan Money and Evan Money reveal the five powerful questions every couple must tackle to move from a “good” marriage to a truly “great” one—and why skipping these questions can cause even the strongest relationships to slowly drift apart. Drawing from personal stories, faith, and practical wisdom, they break down how intentionality, alignment, and reflection forge legendary relationships. From deciding who leads, to evaluating if your marital “process” is really working, you’ll discover transformative habits to strengthen your connection—for life.

Timestamps Overview:

00:01 Welcome & Episode Hook: Five Powerful Questions for Your Marriage
00:31 Introduction from Susan Money and Evan Money
01:14 Why Does Your Marriage Exist?
04:16 The Power of Alignment and Multiplication in Marriage
05:41 Who is Leading This Marriage?
08:22 Navigating Disagreement and Decision-Making Roles
13:04 What is Our Philosophy?
14:43 The Drift Effect & Staying Intentionally Connected
17:16 Embracing Growth and Change Together
18:35 Highlights from Ritz Carlton & Rolls Royce Shout-Outs
18:42 What is Our Process and Is It Working?
21:00 Real-Life Guardrails and Adjustments
23:29 Timing Conversations Intentionally
25:57 What Have We Accomplished in Our Marriage?
28:34 Reflecting on Past Achievements and Future Goals
29:12 The Five Key Questions Recap & Final Challenge
30:47 Outro and Connect with the Show

Join Evan and Susan Money for their Q&A from the recent Marriage of Greatness retreat in Uganda! In this episode, they dive deep into how couples worldwide face similar marital challenges—no matter where they're from.

You’ll hear candid questions from retreat participants about navigating differences in decision-making speed, handling business setbacks with your spouse, respecting each other’s professional expertise, and building clear communication. Susan shares practical advice on setting tangible goals, understanding different ways of processing information, and why changing strategies is crucial when things aren’t working.

The episode also addresses what happens when trust is broken in marriage, with insights on rebuilding love, setting guardrails, and coming back stronger than ever. Plus, celebrate with a couple freshly married for just 48 hours as they gain wisdom to start their journey on a firm foundation.

Whether you’re newlyweds or seasoned partners, this heartfelt and honest episode offers encouragement and actionable advice for every marriage.

🔔 Subscribe for more inspiration and real talk about building a marriage of greatness!

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What if “happily ever after” isn’t something you find—but something you create, every single day?

This episode of the Marriage of Greatness podcast with Evan Money unveils the daily choices and practical rituals that can keep your marriage a bed of roses, no matter the season or circumstances.

Broadcasting a candid Q&A session from a marriage retreat in Uganda, Evan Money dives into the three things you can truly control in your marriage, breaks down the misunderstood secret to lasting intimacy, and shares the inspiration behind getting remarried—and honeymooning—every year with his wife. From honest talk about sex lives and keeping romance alive on a budget, to actionable ways to support your partner’s dreams, this episode brims with genuine wisdom and fresh ideas for couples anywhere in the world.

Timestamped Overview

00:00 Welcome and intro from Uganda marriage retreat
01:22 Three (bad) options people think exist for marriage
02:35 Real secret: You have to create happily ever after
03:48 The only 3 things you can control in life and marriage
06:14 Audience questions begin
06:43 How to keep your sex life exciting—beyond changing locations
08:16 Evan Money breaks down the 3 “I”s every man struggles with (Intimacy, Integrity, Identity)
10:06 Why emotional intimacy supercharges physical intimacy
12:34 Busting the myth of “they should just know what I want”
13:55 Insights from Evan Money’s wife about physical vs emotional intimacy
16:07 Why does Evan Money call his wife “bride” after all these years?
18:10 Annual weddings and creative honeymoons—how and why
19:34 Don’t throw out the roses—keep romance alive
20:50 Creativity and mindset over money
23:28 Spontaneous, meaningful vow renewals
24:13 Dedication, not destination, is what matters
25:06 Breaking the “if, then” cycle
26:44 Focus on your own “room for improvement”
28:17 Proverbs 31 inspiration and mutual uplifting
30:00 How being supportive fueled their entrepreneurial journey
32:12 “Love tank” check-ins and five love languages
34:36 Early days: budgeting, tough moments, staying creative
36:18 Passion vs profession—finding fulfillment and provision
37:49 Doors that open when you live intentionally as partners
38:11 Episode wrap-up and where to follow their journey

What if two of America’s favorite pastimes are quietly sabotaging your marriage?

In this eye-opening episode, Susan Money and Evan Money reveal the surprising ways “counting other people’s money” and “masking anxiety and fear” can drain your joy, connection, and intimacy. With real-life stories, wisdom from Steph Curry, and practical steps inspired by faith and personal experience, they’ll help you shift out of the comparison trap, stop numbing out, and start creating daily habits for a marriage that moves from good to great—one intentional step at a time.

Ready to protect your relationship and inspire greatness? This episode will show you how to tune in, get focused, and craft lasting connection—starting today.

Timestamped Overview

00:00 Two American pastimes that hurt your marriage00:32 Welcome and guiding marriages from good to great01:07 Great marriages are built on habits02:16 Inspiration from Steph Curry and the “Holy Spirit download”04:08 Tuning in and listening to God05:46 American Pastime #1: Counting other people’s money07:35 How comparison drains your marriage09:05 Healthy comparisons and insights from Jordan Peterson10:48 The power of intentionality (Rolls Royce & Ritz Carlton examples)12:10 American Pastime #2: Masking fear/anxiety (binge behaviors)13:27 Personal story: Facing trauma and finding healing17:17 You have to choose into a great marriage18:18 Stop comparing, coping, and start crafting18:41 Get intentional—turn your radio on and tune in18:46 Make what you learned happen today19:06 Outro and calls to action

What if the true secret to a great marriage isn't grand gestures—but relentless, daily consistency?

In this heartwarming Mother's Day special, Evan Money goes solo to serenade his bride, sharing how his marriage flourishes not through perfection, but through intentional habits, daily encouragement, and never letting romance lose its caretaker. Drawing wisdom from the Proverbs 31 woman, he reveals how his wife’s strength, faith, generosity, and unwavering support shape their lives and marriage—from convalescent ministry to 38+ weddings (and counting!). Get ready for an episode packed with inspiration, powerful stories, and the reminder that true greatness in marriage is available to all who commit—consistently.

00:00 Mother's Day Special & 100 Weddings Goal00:30 Why This Episode is Solo & Mother’s Day Serenade02:46 Lessons from Proverbs 31 Woman05:09 Sacrifices for Love: The Mustang Story07:05 Delighting in One’s Work & Ministry Impact08:31 Prison Ministry and Divine Supplies09:16 Marriage Retreats in Africa10:18 Supporting Nonprofits and Family Abroad12:28 Generosity and Overcoming Fear13:33 Dreaming of a Purple Gown Wedding14:05 The Secret to Speaker A’s Success15:07 Wisdom, Laughing, and Pouring Out Love16:03 Meeting Every Need at Home16:40 The Virtuous Woman Praised—A Parade for Susan17:42 Evan’s Closing Words to His Bride18:00 Where to Follow Evan & Susan’s Journey

What if the secret to a thriving marriage is not about doing more, but about muting the world and tapping into the power of silence?

Discover in this uplifting episdoe how building your "strength of spirit" can radically transform your relationship from the inside out.

Evan Money and Susan Money share practical ways to cultivate spiritual resilience, the discipline of quiet, and the intentional guardrails that protect your most cherished connection. Drawing inspiration from Mother Teresa and Billy Graham, you'll learn why stillness is your greatest foundation for marital greatness—and how now is the time to bring clarity and intention to your love.

Episode Highlights:

00:00 Strength of spirit in marriage—what it means

00:43 Great marriages built on habits, not hype

01:14 Intentional inspiration & celebration of 100 episodes

02:07 Galatians 5 Fruit of the Spirit—focus on strength of spirit

03:23 Metaphor: the elevator & accessing spiritual fruit

04:38 Why "self control" misses the mark—strength must be built

05:25 How do you currently strengthen your spiritual life?

06:05 Practical example—finding silence to build spirit

07:44 Quote: "It's not who you listen to, it's who you mute"

08:03 Definition—strength of spirit, aligning with God's will

09:03 The power of stillness & listening for God's voice

09:38 Clarity comes from stillness—ditch the noise

11:21 Inspiration from Rolls Royce & Ritz Carlton on intentionality

12:39 Lessons from Mother Teresa—prayer as deep listening

14:39 Billy Graham—prayer as lifestyle

17:01 Biblical wisdom—guardrails & protecting your marriage

18:54 Simple guardrail strategies for marital protection

20:53 Stillness over stimulation—training not neglecting your spirit

22:58 In marriage—responding, not reacting; engaging, not withdrawing

23:44 Action steps: slow down, tune in, and build clarity

24:14 Closing encouragement & episode wrap-up

What if gentleness isn’t a weakness, but the superpower your marriage needs most?

In this empowering episode of the Marriage of Greatness podcast, Evan Money and Susan Money reveal how true strength is found in a “gentleness of heart”—and how both husbands and wives can access this transformative quality every day.

Discover practical insights like why romance only “dies” when we stop caring for it, what it really means to send the “elevator down” for patience and kindness, and the myth that gentleness is just for women. Evan Money and Susan Money dig deep into inspirational role models from Jesus and Gandhi to Nelson Mandela and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., showing how power under control is the key to a love that lasts and grows.

Listen in for real-life stories, actionable tips, and a powerful challenge to take the first step in your own relationship—because greatness starts with going first.

Timestamped Overview

00:00 Gentleness of Heart in Marriage—Episode Kickoff00:18 The “100 Weddings by 100th Birthday” Vision and Intro00:44 The Power of Habits & Why Romance Needs Caretakers01:46 Inspiration from Galatians 5:22 and the Fruits of the Spirit03:14 The “Elevator” Analogy for Accessing Gentleness04:05 Gentleness vs. Strength: Man of Steel & Velvet06:01 Defining Gentleness and Its Attributes07:02 Fire Hose Analogy & Harnessing Strength for Gentleness08:11 Stories of Real-Life Gentleness in Action09:13 Practical Tips for Husbands and Wives11:10 Gentleness as a Guardrail—Preventing Escalation12:00 Ultimate Example: Jesus as Strength Under Control14:15 Modern Examples: Gandhi, MLK Jr., Nelson Mandela17:46 Intentionality—What Rolls Royce & Ritz Carlton Teach Us20:44 Takeaways: Gentleness Is Strength Under Control21:24 Challenge: Go First and Be the Example in Your Marriage22:05 Closing Words and Next Steps