Jem and Justin trade toddler war stories before Jem confesses he'd rather tear down 4.5m pallet racking alone at midnight than hire anyone. Justin reveals his June sales cliff after a domain migration tanked Google traffic, hitting Profit First distributions hard. They also riff on the Obsidian exodus from Notion, breaking up with Cursor for Claude Code, and why rearranging the shop is happening before finishing new products.

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• Migrating away from Cursor ꘎
• We have become a tech company ꘎
• Obsidian rollout ꘎
• Recovering migration hangover
• Finishing reorganization on woodshop
• The deep thinkings and feelings of lean
• The internet never forgets - outro song

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HOSTS

Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin chat about the World Cup's surprisingly warm reception in the US, Jem's Kitta Parts Builder getting a 3D preview upgrade (doors that actually open), and a FedEx API build that finally came together. Justin shares how Shopify's AI flagged a 430-pound weight bug before support did. They close on a real Profit First curveball: what do you do when a big deposit lands early?

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• World Cup
• Double shifts at Butter
• Like Butter Kitta Parts Builder Update - 3D
• Henry Holsters - overhead camera?
• Is it 430 lbs?
• Recommended: Unsolved mystery of Lorem Ipsum
• PF oversize conundrum ꘎
• Dispatch improvements ꘎

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HOSTS

Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Justin makes himself a 5-axis trophy and a quick YouTube shop tour and tests his Gimbel CoolantClear. Jem survives a short production week down a person, rants about builder POs and spirals into late-night Rhino scripting with Cursor. Plus bot orders, prototype hoarding, and the emotional weight of unfinished projects. Also, sea shanties.

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• Dispatch is a mess, need a LEAN makeover, how much do I own other people's jobs, fuck it I'll just do it myself, max capacity yet still no money left, brain overwhelm and other stories. ꘎
• Rhino script intervention needed... ꘎
• Fast Shop Tour - PDX CNC
• ALL 5 AXIS video
• FU: CAD models available
• We are not agreeing to your PO terms
• Roderick on the Line Ep 628

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Show Info

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Please note: Show notes contains affiliate links.

HOSTS

Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

Like Butter | Instagram | More Links

Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

PDX CNC | Instagram | More Links