In this episode of The Unredacted Podcast, we delve into the critical role of journalism in the domain of US national defense and intelligence. Hosts Lindy Kyzer and Brian Drake explore the challenges faced by government communicators in balancing transparency with secrecy, especially in today’s complex new media landscape. Lindy shares her experiences as a Public Affairs Officer amid shifting public trust, while both hosts reflect on insights from the recent Trust in Media Cooperative conference.

Our special guest, Sasha Ingber, is a career journalist and Founder of the HUMINT Substack. She is also the first female host of the Spy Museum's SpyCast. During this interview, she shares her insights on what is uniquely challenging in reporting on intelligence and national security beat. Sasha drills deep into the topics of counterintelligence threats in the midst of Federal layoffs, anonymous health incidents (otherwise known as Havana Syndrome), and gaining the trust of intelligence insiders.

Join us as we uncover the challenges and imperatives of intelligence journalism, offering unique perspectives on national security that go beyond the headlines.

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This week on The Unredacted Podcast, Brian and Lindy wax poetic about mentors and the leadership lessons they have learned. They explore what leadership means when you are responsible for the security of the nation. And who better to school us about what to expect when you're in the "big chair" than Stacey Dixon, the former Principal Deputy Director for National Intelligence. On this episode, Stacey tells her story from the humble beginnings of Bell Labs, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the halls of Congress, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), and then to the DNI. She shares some of the most intimate stories about the tough challenges of the Afghanistan withdrawal, navigating the COVID pandemic, and advocating for the Intelligence Community on The Hill. She also shares her joys in leading people, inspiring life-changing research, and how to build coalitions of the willing in a sprawling bureaucracy. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in leadership, intelligence operations, and the inner workings of the national security apparatus.

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In this episode of The Unredacted Podcast, Lindy and Brian explore the definition of the "warfighter" and examine the complex interplay between civilian policies and US national defense priorities. Featuring Jesse Levin, the Executive Director of the Defense Entrepreneurs Forum, the discussion delves into privately funded, innovative business models and methods to advance international security and intelligence operations. Using case studies from Haiti to Ukraine, Jesse highlights how humanitarian relief efforts and private sector support can assist operations out forward in times of crisis and war. Discover how fostering a spirit of national service can contribute to rebuilding and strengthening the human arsenal within the defense market and broader national security landscape.

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In this episode, Lindy and Brian try their hand at making Federal procurement and innovation policy "un-boring." They probe the question of whether the Department of Defense/War is making the right moves to inspire innovation and competition while delivering capabilities to the field. Unredacted was lucky to snag one of the most preeminent thinkers on Defense Innovation, Tyrome "Ty" Smith, to weigh-in on this question. Brian and Ty dive deep, swap stories, and play a couple of games to answer listener questions.

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This week Lindy and Brian celebrate the New Year with tips to deceive your loved ones based on the miracles of time zones. They also interview Dave Buckley, the former IG of the Central Intelligence Agency. In this episode, Dave educates us on what an IG does and does not do, the challenges of inspecting an organization with people who are trained to lie for a living, and why its important to preserve the integrity of inspections for government.

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In this episode, Lindy and Brian test the limits of free speech in national security. What is the way forward when America's constitutional protections threaten to undermine the fabric of its democracy? Given that neither Brian nor Lindy are experts, they interview someone who is; Jane Kirtley. Professor Kirtley is the Silha Professor of Media Ethics and Law at the Hubbard School of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Minnesota. She has written friend-of-the-court briefs in the U.S. Supreme Court, as well as two books and articles for scholarly journals and for the popular and professional press. We discuss at length her article for the American Constitution Society blog on disinformation. You can find the article here: https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/liability-for-amplification-of-disinformation-a-law-of-unintended-consequences/

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In this episode, Brian interviews Lindy about her new book Trust Me. Lindy shares some rare insights into how the security process actually works and what the future holds for current and aspiring clearance holders.

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In their first ever podcast crossover, we interview Megan Jaffer for The Unredacted Podcast. Megan and her partner in crime, Cadie Hopkins, started the Iron Butterfly Podcast in 2020. It has since become a juggernaut of content creation for the U.S. Intelligence Community. Brian and Lindy also discuss equity issues in National Defense and Intelligence and the importance of creating space for conversations on gender issues.

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