In this episode of Too Sober For This, recovery advocate Shell Righini and comedian Iain Anderson take on one of life’s most loaded topics: money.

From growing up with complicated financial narratives to navigating freelance life in recovery, this is an honest, funny, and at times uncomfortable conversation about what money really means, and why so many of us avoid talking about it.

Shell and Iain unpack their own relationships with money, shaped by addiction, shame, survival, and sobriety. They explore the chaos of spending in active addiction, the fear of financial instability, and the strange reality that even when things are “better,” money can still feel overwhelming.

There are conversations about debt, earning, self-worth, and the emotional weight money carries plus the reality of trying to build a creative life without a safety net.

They also dig into the contradictions: feeling more comfortable with nothing than having money, trusting everything will “work out” vs actually planning for the future, and whether chasing money is success… or just another addiction.

In this episode

• Why money feels so uncomfortable to talk about (even in recovery)
• How addiction shaped their early relationships with spending and debt
• The fear of financial insecurity even when things are “going well”
• Freelance life, feast-and-famine income, and the reality behind “doing what you love”
• The link between money, self-worth, and shame
• Why having nothing can sometimes feel safer than having something
• Trust vs avoidance: is “it’ll all work out” healthy… or delusion?
• The impact of money on relationships, partnerships, and independence

Expect uncomfortable questions, strong opinions, dark humour, and plenty of laughing at things we probably shouldn’t.

Because sometimes, even in sobriety… money still makes absolutely no sense.

If you’re struggling with debt, you don’t have to do it alone.
You can get free, confidential help from StepChange Debt Charity:
👉 https://www.stepchange.org

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Next week we’re talking about the manosphere.

So we want to hear from you: What are your opinions and experiences of the manosphere?

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In this episode of Too Sober For This, recovery advocate Shell Righini and comedian Iain Anderson tackle one of life’s biggest questions: does true love actually exist?

Recorded just after Valentine’s Day, and shortly after Iain announced his engagement, the conversation quickly turns into an honest, funny, and occasionally uncomfortable exploration of love, relationships, and how sobriety changes the way we think about them.

Shell and Iain talk about the expectations we grow up with around romance, the reality of dating as adults, and how recovery forces you to confront your feelings instead of hiding from them.

They explore everything from messy past relationships and emotional unavailability to the idea that maybe real love isn’t about someone completing you; rather it’s about two people who already have their own lives choosing to build something together.

In this episode

• Iain shares the story of how he proposed to his fiancé
• Why Shell has become deeply cynical about the idea of true love
• How childhood expectations shape the way we approach relationships
• The difference between love, attachment, and codependency
• Why friendships can sometimes offer deeper connection than romance
• The importance of learning to like, and eventually love yourself first

Expect uncomfortable questions, strong opinions, dark humour, and plenty of laughing at things we probably shouldn’t.

Because sometimes, even in sobriety we find… we are definitely too sober for this.

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Next week we’re talking about money.

So we want to hear from you: Why does talking about money feel like dirty talk?

Send us a DM on Instagram @toosoberforthispodcast or WhatsApp +44 7343 057171 with your thoughts and we might feature your opinion in the next episode of Too Sober For This.

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Traumedy Show - https://iainandersoncomedy.com/

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In the very first episode of Too Sober For This, recovery expert Shell Righini and comedian Iain Anderson introduce themselves, explain how they met in the comments section of a DJ Fat Tony post, and why two sober people decided to start a podcast about life’s chaos.

Before this podcast existed, Shell actually interviewed Iain on her recovery podcast We Recover Loudly, and that conversation is where the idea for this show really began.

Listen to that episode here : We Recover Loudly Season 3 Ep 9

In This Episode

• How Shell and Iain first connected online
• Shell’s journey through addiction and burnout in hospitality
• The moment that led her to recovery
• How We Recover Loudly began
• Why they decided to start Too Sober For This
• What topics the podcast will explore going forward

Expect uncomfortable questions, strong opinions, dark humour, and plenty of laughing at things we probably shouldn’t.

Because sometimes, even in sobriety we find … we are definitely too sober for this!

NEXT EPISODE QUESTION - GET INVOLVED!!

Next week we’re talking about true love. So we want to hear from you:

Does true love actually exist?

Send us a DM on Instagram (@toosoberforthispodcast) or WhatsApp +447343057171 with your thoughts and we might feature your opinion in the next episode of Too Sober For This.

Connect With Us

@toosoberforthispodcast

Shell Righini - @shell_righini Iain Anderson - @iainanderson.comedy

Traumedy Show - https://iainandersoncomedy.com/

Listen to Shell’s podcast We Recover Loudly here on Spotify

This Podcast Is Brought to You By We Recover Loudly Merch

Bold recovery slogans and wearable reminders that recovery doesn’t have to be quiet.

Shop here: www.werecoverloudly.com

@werecoverloudly

Mastered and edited by Unmuted Studios. Podcast production, editing, and creative support.

www.unmutedstudios.com